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  • #41576
    DJ Vintage
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    Hmm, interesting. Although I prefer flying without a limiter (I rather keep things in check myself), even with the limiter (unless you’ve set it to some crazy settings before) the MC6000 should be “hot” enough to power any set of active speakers.

    If what you say is correct and all you did was switch off the limiter. The limiter must have really been set to some odd values. Even with limiter on in Traktor Pro 2 setup, I get PLENTY of volume out of my Mackie HD-series active speakers.

    Remember, all the limiter does is keep you below 0dB digital. Which is a good things since 0dB digital (quite opposite of analogue signals) means distortion! Not such a bad thing therefor.

    I am wondering what setting you are using though, internal or external mixing? There is a switch on the back

    Greetinx,
    C.

    #41596
    Coltrane09
    Participant

    This evening, I’ll be sure to check the back of the controller and make sure it’s set correctly.

    #41621
    Coltrane09
    Participant

    Ok, so the MC6000 is set to PC, MAC. Traktor is set to “Internal Mixing”.

    #41622
    DJ Vintage
    Moderator

    Coltrane09, post: 41778, member: 2800 wrote: Ok, so the MC6000 is set to PC, MAC. Traktor is set to “Internal Mixing”.

    Yeah they changed the buttons on the back with the later version. The one I have has a switch PC/Mac (which obviously needs to be set to the right kind of laptop you are using) the other switch is mixing mode (Int mix/PC mix).

    I have it set to Mac (as I am using a MacBook Pro) and Int Mix. The last is a bit confusing because (looking at it from the Denon MC6000 prospective) INTERNAL means MC6000 whereas what is called internal mixing in TRAKTOR is what corresponds with the PC MIX setting on the Denon.

    I always use the INT MIX on the Denon and EXTERNAL mixing on the TRAKTOR. Now what happens is that Traktor only sends your track outs to the channel faders on the Denon. Everything else is handled on the Denon.

    I really see no added value to having an MC6000 and running it as a midi mixer for the internal Traktor mixer. Besides if you don’t use the internal mixing feature on Traktor, it frees up processor capacity.

    Might wanna give those settings a try and see what it brings you.

    Greetinx,
    C.

    #41626
    Coltrane09
    Participant

    At the time when I looked at the settings I didn’t have a lot of time to play around with it, but I will check the other settings you mentioned now. I noticed that when I clicked on “External Mixer” in Traktor that the MC6000 didn’t respond. However, I am wondering if that has anything to do with the “A-THRU-B” Channel settings (on front of device)? I bet it does. The faders moved, but the volume didn’t. I had everything set on “THRU”. I just turned everything on and will report back shortly. But I’m all about freeing up processor capacity.

    #41627
    DJ Vintage
    Moderator

    Hi, the a-thru-b settings only have to do with the crossfader, for every channel fader you can choose if it becomes the a or b side of the x-fader or if it ignores it (thru).

    When you set external mix in traktor, but don’t set INTERNAL MIX on the Denon at the same time, it won’t work as it is supposed to.

    So, be sure to check that setting too.

    Good luck & greetinx,
    C.

    #41633
    Coltrane09
    Participant

    So on the back of the MC6000 for Mix Mode there is an option for PC Mix v. Int Mix. When I switched to Int Mix everything was fine until I tried to use my Remix/Sample Decks for my DJ drops. The sample decks are set on Channels 1 and 4 on the controller and the controller didn’t respond. Switching everything back to PC Mix on the controller and internal mix for Traktor brought everything back online.

    I guess there is no way to use the sample decks on the controller using Int Mix?

    #41634
    Coltrane09
    Participant

    BTW, what do you have your Master Volume on the controller set on? And do you keep the faders on “0”? Lastly, what is your Main Volume set to in Traktor? Does it matter what the setting is if you’re controlling everything on the controller?

    #41641
    DJ Vintage
    Moderator

    Coltrane09, post: 41790, member: 2800 wrote: So on the back of the MC6000 for Mix Mode there is an option for PC Mix v. Int Mix. When I switched to Int Mix everything was fine until I tried to use my Remix/Sample Decks for my DJ drops. The sample decks are set on Channels 1 and 4 on the controller and the controller didn’t respond. Switching everything back to PC Mix on the controller and internal mix for Traktor brought everything back online.

    I guess there is no way to use the sample decks on the controller using Int Mix?

    Ok let’s take them one at the time 😀

    The mix switch is that, it determines if you use the internal mixer in your software, in your case Traktor (and you set the Denon for PC MIX) or if you use external mixer in your software (and set your Denon to INT MIX). This does NOT have anything to do with the decks, just with the way audio is being sent.

    I don’t use the remix decks and always have cd-players/media players hooked up to channel 1 and 4 for backup.

    I have to go by memory here, but if instead of using the USB 1/2 and USB 3/4 matrix input on channel 2 and 3 (which is my standard two deck Traktor setting), but setting all of the matrix selectors to midi, you can control all 4 decks on their own faders and you’d use change deck button to switch between the decks. What I don’t remember clearly if this setup requires the use of Traktor internal mixer or if it functions with the external mixer setting as well. I can give it a try tomorrow or friday as I have some time to toy around with it.

    #41642
    DJ Vintage
    Moderator

    Coltrane09, post: 41791, member: 2800 wrote: BTW, what do you have your Master Volume on the controller set on? And do you keep the faders on “0”? Lastly, what is your Main Volume set to in Traktor? Does it matter what the setting is if you’re controlling everything on the controller?

    My master volume is hardly ever past halfway on the controller. I try to keep my channel faders at 0 most of the time, giving me a bit of playroom when required (emphasising a certain sound by just making it a tad louder for example).

    It matters in that if the setting is for external (Traktor) INT MIX (Denon), the Denon is actually doing the work (you get sound back from Traktor through USB and that get’s summed to the main channel on the Denon. The on-screen knob will follow the movement of the master volume knob, but just for optical feedback.

    The other way around, thus internal (Traktor) PC MIX (Denon) setting, all the mixing actually get’s done in the PC/Laptop and only the main and cue outputs get routed back to the Denon. When you move the knob on the controller for master volume, it actually controls the master volume in the software.

    Hope I got it right now 🙂

    I’ll try to check on the 4-deck setup in the next couple of days.

    Greetinx,
    C.

    #41647
    Coltrane09
    Participant

    Thanks, Chuck. I think I misspoke about the “Main volume”. It may be the “Gain”. When looking at the clock in Traktor to the right there is “Main” and directly below that there is a setting for “Main”. I have mine set to -0.5 db. I have the Master Volume on the controller set half way, and now that I have the limiter disabled I run the faders at “0”.

    When you get a chance please let me know where you have your “Main” setting set to in Traktor. Thanks.

    #41659
    DJ Vintage
    Moderator

    Hi,

    Will get back to you soonest, but can tell you that in order to use the 4-deck option, you have to set Traktor to Internal, Denon to PC Mix and all the matrix inputs to midi.

    Greetinx,
    C.

    #41668
    Coltrane09
    Participant

    Ok, thanks.

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