Alternatives to software recording
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May 6, 2013 at 12:52 pm #39976
Terry_42
KeymasterIf you have a Mac you can use AudioHijack Pro
May 6, 2013 at 1:07 pm #39978Shaun Pearcey
ParticipantI would IF i had a mac, unfortunately until I get my terminal mix 4 I cant use serato to record, is there any windows based software to do this?
May 6, 2013 at 3:35 pm #39981nick greek
Memberaudacity?
May 6, 2013 at 3:55 pm #39983Daryl Northrop
ParticipantYou should be able to use audacity. Run your audio out from your mixing board into your microphone in jack. Then, in audacity, set your audio source to microphone (line in) and you should be able to do it.
May 7, 2013 at 2:08 pm #40041henley
ParticipantMay 7, 2013 at 5:36 pm #40056nick greek
Memberhenley, post: 40197, member: 8952 wrote: Tape!
http://www.reloop.com/reloop-tapeaudacity is free and you can’t beat that, however tape is nice alternative and a stylish one.got one for a dj friend
May 7, 2013 at 6:22 pm #40059DJ Vintage
ModeratorDaryl Northrop, post: 40139, member: 2350 wrote: You should be able to use audacity. Run your audio out from your mixing board into your microphone in jack. Then, in audacity, set your audio source to microphone (line in) and you should be able to do it.
Not a big fan of offering line level signals on microphone inputs. Usually leads to redlining. The sound circuit in laptops (specially the mic inputs) are usually sub-par in quality and signal handling. So, I’d strongly recommend against that. Also it means running a real time recording application (that needs to talk to the soundcard too) at the same time as you are trying to run a processor and soundcard driver heavy application like dj software. So we have both the extra computer load and the less-than-optimal sound quality of a laptop mic input. Not a good mix in my opinion.
You could go the professional way and get a Zoom (H4N for example) in the 250 euro price range. The Zoom has two microphones so you can record high quality audio anywhere you are too, but of course it has combo XLR/6.3mm Jack inputs too, you can run balanced signal in there if you need it :-).
The Reloop Tape is a nice little gizmo at under a 100 euros, definitely worth it for the price and it does feature a through output, so you can just hook it up between your master out and your PA.
Big difference between the two is that the Reloop only does MP3, the Zoom allows you to record in WAV format. If you don’t want to edit afterwards, MP3 is fine (just stick with 320kbps). If you want to run your mix through some “mastering” before you release it (which I would, since a recording on youtube or something requires a different EQ, compression and such than what comes out of your controller), then a WAV file is much more preferable.
I am no big fan of taking my nice XLR master outputs, converting them to a 3.5mm mini-jack and then take a 3.5mm mini-jack to XLR connector to go to your PA. For one, you have just lossed your balanced signal and you are now trying to get all that high quality sound through a connector made for headphones. Very vulnerable cable too.
Your N4 has booth out though. If you don’t use it for booth (or use the through function of the Reloop, for booth the quality is much less an issue and since you keep your booth speakers close, so is balanced cable), then hooking up your recording device to the booth output is the smartest thing. It gives you the following advantages:
- You can set your recording level independent of your master level. If you adjust your master level during the night, it doesn’t affect your recording level. Just dial in your booth to give you a 0dB input signal when you are running 0dB on the master output and leave the booth level set for the rest of the night (might be problematic if you use the booth speakers as well though).
- Booth outputs don’t play microphone signals, so even if you have to use the mic at some point, you just get the music and not the mic on tape.
- If the Reloop breaks in the middle of your set, at least you don’t lose your master signal, the show goes on.
Hope that helps.
Good luck and greetinx,
C.May 8, 2013 at 8:48 pm #40114Shaun Pearcey
ParticipantThanks for your help guys but after more thought, I am set on the Denon MC3000 so can use traktor to record mixes! I will be looking into a more pro way of recording soon so thanks for your input chuck and everyone else. If I was to get the TM4 then the reloop tape would be a great option but if i can use the software im running to record my mix all I need to do is set my vlog camera up so i can record me 🙂
Audacity kept giving me weird error messages so I couldn’t edit the recordings without saving it first (or is this how it works?)
May 9, 2013 at 8:33 am #40126henley
ParticipantWhy not just use your N4 with Traktor?
May 9, 2013 at 9:31 am #40128Shaun Pearcey
ParticipantI tried it out using the official traktor mapping and after about 4/5 minutes it bugged out so was no good I’d rather get the denon which was one of my main choices first, should have just gone with it but didnt :/
May 9, 2013 at 4:47 pm #40140DJ Vintage
ModeratorI have the MC6000 and used it for 2 years with lots of pleasure. I am sure the MC3000 will do great for you.
Good luck & greetinx,
C.May 9, 2013 at 5:18 pm #40142Shaun Pearcey
ParticipantHope so chuck, want to learn traktor looks awesome! Traktor is a piece of kit I let go under my nose as I wanted to try serato but it looks so much more powerful!
May 9, 2013 at 7:55 pm #40150DJ Vintage
ModeratorIt’s a matter of taste. I am dying to try Serato, but my gear so far has not been supported. And getting a controller just to try Serato is not my idea of fun :-). Reason is it apparently has way better beatgridding on non-electronic music. Being a mobile DJ I have to play many kinds of music and in Traktor that means lots of manual beatgrid checking.
Still, Traktor packs a punch alright.
Fun to see that these three brands survived (VirtualDJ, Traktor, Serato). Nobody ever talks about PCDJ anymore. And there were a few more.
Greetinx,
C.May 9, 2013 at 8:20 pm #40153Shaun Pearcey
ParticipantIt wasn’t a fact of getting it for serato but it was going to be supported then serato held it back further so now i’ve lost interest and am moving onto a new software and controller worse comes of it I can use VDJ which is something I’m fluent on.
I didn’t know that serato was better for beat gridding than traktor but I play 70’s/80’s tunes with new stuff and old classics from the 60’s too but I want a new challenge and something to play around with (remixes,mashups and more fxs). I suppose I will be beat gridding all my tracks if thats the case then :/
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