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  • #37353
    DJ Euforiske
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    They are for producers and used in making a track.

    #37435
    softcore
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    Original hardware modular synthesizers required the fitting of short cables to allow for modulation routing. Therefore upon desigining sounds, the user of the synthesizer had to, in a way, “patch” it by inserting the cables in the desired positions-locations.

    The term carried on to this digital day where it literally means “a preset of a synthesizer”. When the “patch” of a VST synthesizer plug in gets “loaded” (usually with a select menu found on the GUI of the synth), all the knobs, buttons, settings and other parameters of the synth are recalled to the positions they were when the patch was saved, therefore the “sound” the user had created can be “recalled”.

    So, patches when found on the internet, always relate to specific plug-in instruments or effects – in essense they are “preset sounds” (for synths) or “preset settings” (for effects).

    #37442
    niu02kevin
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    Thanks, softcore. Great answer. I’ve seen that with all the wires and plugs. Looks like an old phone operator board. So you can say….”thats the sound I want from my synth/VST right there”, apply the patch, and all your virtual knobs and plugs will be set. Seems a little like cheating. I can’t imagine that a lot of prominent artists/producers would use presets, do they? It may be a good place to start to get that sound you’re looking for, then maybe make some other adjustments from there.

    I’m just starting to investigate music production. I’ve spent the last few months devouring information about and playing with Traktor Pro 2. My Focusrite AI came with Ableton Lite. Of course I get an email daily, UPGRADE TO LIVE 8 SUITE NOW FOR 25% OFF AND GET FREE UPGRADE TO LIVE 9 SUITE!!!!!!!! Seems like a lot more stuff to learn, but I do enjoy the hell out of my DJ adventure thus far. I actually read the Traktor Bible. I don’t know about Ableton. It seems strange. I like the look of Logic better, but it seems like Ableton is the obvious choice for DJ/EDM stuff.

    #37509
    softcore
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    niu02kevin, post: 37598, member: 8306 wrote: Seems a little like cheating. I can’t imagine that a lot of prominent artists/producers would use presets, do they? It may be a good place to start to get that sound you’re looking for, then maybe make some other adjustments from there.

    That’s a very popular discussion amongst producers – especially those who are new to production. Lets put some thoughts on the table though….

    Does a great pianist design how his own piano sounds or is he just very good at playing it?
    At what extend is a sound “yours”? If you designed a sound from scratch (usually “init” patch in a plug in synthesizer) is it really yours given the fact that someone else designed the knobs and the code with which this sound is programmed? So how about desigining your own synth….Hey but wait a minute, desigining a VST synth usually involves coding in a language like C++. But you didnt create the language….And oh, forgot to mention, you didnt even build the OS nor the computer in which all this stuff runs on…..So where does it end?

    Prominent producers, indeed do not use presets – but that, I believe, is not because if they did they would be “less” original or have “less” authentic or “personal” sound. Its, usually because the synth presets do not cover their own “notion” of how this or that sound should be. It appears as a need, not as a pre-active thought of “being original” – if I make sense.

    What Im trying to say is, I have never felt like Im cheating because I used an already made sound of a synth in one of my tunes – BUT most of the times, I dont like the ready-made sounds of my synths because usually the patches are showcasing the vast capabilities of each synth in creating “fat”, “dirty” gritty or what have you sounds. Now if you are into minimal stuff, most of the times these sounds are too “full-on”. So, all in all, it aint about cheating, its about what suits ya. 😉

    #37510
    softcore
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    BTW if you want my honest opinion, I would choose logic over Ableton Live for production any time of the day! 😉 But thats just me and imagine I dont even use any of them (for production) so its not a matter of “fanboy-ism”

    #37513
    niu02kevin
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    Got ya, thanks. Great points. It could be a good place to start in finding something close to the sound you’re looking for. I keep coming across people mentioning a couple of books on the matter of computer music production and synthesis.

    http://www.digitaldjtips.com/forum/threads/books-they-can-be-dj-gear-right.8056/

    They would seem like a decent place to start. I’m not a fan of youtube tutorials a lot of the time. Wind up covering things I already know from different people in different ways. I like to read, make notes, and frequently stop for a little impromptu performance tutorial to drive home the concepts. Anything you’ve come across that is useful? Have you heard of those titles?

    Thanks for the advice on Logic. I’m gonna take some time to learn a few things before deciding on a DAW.

    #37515
    softcore
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    Yeah Im the reader-type myself too. I dont know the specific books in your other thread so I cant comment. I’ll have to look on one of my external hard-drives to remember the titles of a couple of ones that I would reccomend.
    Also, a great help can be the “Computer Music” magazine – it helped me a great deal when I was starting.

    As for the choice of DAW, to put the logic behind my above post, Ableton Live excells in improvisation-performing but the “arrangement view” which is the equivalent to other DAW’s “main view” (timeline view) is a bit lacking. Also, I find a bit limiting the in-built synthesizers which of course you can substitute with VST plug ins but most other DAWs already have better choices to begin with. All in all, all major DAWs pretty much share the same common “timeline view” and its a design which has been proven sufficient for decades hence my reluctancy to suggest Ableton Live to a person who wants to seriously work on producing music and not just fiddle around with effects and loops.

    CLARIFICATION: NOT that you cant produce seriously in Live, it’s just that its workflow kinda discourages a beginner to do so – he is more likely to get things done with loops and random experimenting rather than actually having a plan on what he is going to do. But everything is equally posible in pretty much all DAWs today!

    #37548
    Terry_42
    Keymaster

    I think any DAW is fine that has a good name in the scene. Ableton, Logic, FLS,…
    It totally depends on your workflow and style of work.
    For example I like Ableton to play around with, but I never got it to work for my production workflow.
    I love production in Logic and creating beats with Maschine.
    But I also have seen people rather using an MPC and Ableton… so whatever works for you is good I guess.

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