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February 9, 2013 at 4:11 am #36443
Corey Hum
ParticipantDepends on what you type of genre you mix. I mix mostly edm and i usually switch the low eqs first for 8 bars when i’m introducing a new track followed by the mids then start to cross fade on the 4,2,3,4to the new song. I haven’t played enough with the individual volume faders of each deck the tunes but some djs use the individual faders to mix and keep the centre fader in the middle
February 9, 2013 at 4:21 am #36445adit
ParticipantI’m trying to mix disco and it’s easier to mix with crossfader. The problem is the sound gets too loud when the crossfader is on the middle.
February 9, 2013 at 11:20 am #36451DJ Vintage
ModeratorMost crossfaders can be set to different “slopes”. Some slopes have both channels at full output in the middle, others have curves that pretty much keep the total output the same from one side of the cross to the other. Which you prefer depends on the kind of music you are mixing I guess.
Greetinx,
C.February 9, 2013 at 11:45 am #36455adit
ParticipantChuck van Eekelen, post: 36607, member: 2756 wrote: Most crossfaders can be set to different “slopes”. Some slopes have both channels at full output in the middle, others have curves that pretty much keep the total output the same from one side of the cross to the other. Which you prefer depends on the kind of music you are mixing I guess.
Greetinx,
C.wow, it used to be like that in my traktor. but since reinstalling it’s changed. does anyone know how to set so the total output is the same from each side? thank you.
February 9, 2013 at 12:45 pm #36458DJ Vintage
ModeratorUnder settings – mixer – crossfader you can set a value between smooth (which I think is what you want) and sharp (which gives you full signal of both channels between 1/4 and 3/4 of the crossfader (i.e. double signal for half the movement of the fader).
It is standard set to smooth I think. Since neither the manual nor the Traktor Bible give any visual representation of the curves used, I have to guess here, but what I wrote makes the most sense.
Guess you’ll have to play with the settings a bit.
Greetinx,
C.February 9, 2013 at 4:16 pm #36463aaron altar
ParticipantSharp is for scratching and smooth is what you want. Chuck’s advice is probably what you are looking for. I don’t use the crossfader and mix using the volume exclusively so I’ll lower the outgoing track slightly based on the volume of the incoming track. When I play both full on I usually have both at 8 or so.
February 10, 2013 at 12:33 am #36481adit
ParticipantApparently my setting was already smooth. I can seriously hear the bass gets more booming (not pleasant) as I slide the fader over.
February 10, 2013 at 12:53 am #36482aaron altar
ParticipantAdjust the volume as you go or adjust the bass levels.
February 10, 2013 at 7:16 am #36489Steelo
ParticipantIt sounds like you aren’t using the EQs to adjust the sound for mixing tracks? This is one of the fundamental steps to DJing…
February 10, 2013 at 8:18 am #36499adit
ParticipantNo I don’t lol. I always mix with volume fader before and I use EQ. I thought with crossfader you can get away without using EQ.
February 10, 2013 at 5:50 pm #36532DJ Urband
MemberYou can never get away from EQing, I learned that the hard way when I start playing my first gig.
February 11, 2013 at 3:35 am #365512SHAE!
ParticipantI use the crossfader, EQs, as well as volume to get the perfect mix. For house music I do alot of long transitions. (ill use a 32 bar transition for this example) So I start by having the crossfader in the middle and the volume of the incoming track off. on the incoming tracks EQ, I will usually have the bass all the way down and the mids and highs at 10 oclock, but it may differ for each song. on the 8th bar of the transition, I will then slide the volume up about 7/8ths the way and leave it like that for 8 bars. On the 16th bar, I turn the mids and highs at 12 o clock on the incoming track, and turn them down to 10oclock on the outgoing track. on the 24th bar, I switch the volumes. so…all the way up on incoming, 1/8 decrease on the outgoing. and on the 28th bar, Ill very slowly crossfade into the incoming track while slowly adjusting the bass to 12oclock.
February 11, 2013 at 4:08 am #36553adit
Participant2SHAE!, post: 36707, member: 1459 wrote: I use the crossfader, EQs, as well as volume to get the perfect mix. For house music I do alot of long transitions. (ill use a 32 bar transition for this example) So I start by having the crossfader in the middle and the volume of the incoming track off. on the incoming tracks EQ, I will usually have the bass all the way down and the mids and highs at 10 oclock, but it may differ for each song. on the 8th bar of the transition, I will then slide the volume up about 7/8ths the way and leave it like that for 8 bars. On the 16th bar, I turn the mids and highs at 12 o clock on the incoming track, and turn them down to 10oclock on the outgoing track. on the 24th bar, I switch the volumes. so…all the way up on incoming, 1/8 decrease on the outgoing. and on the 28th bar, Ill very slowly crossfade into the incoming track while slowly adjusting the bass to 12oclock.
thank you for the detailed explanation. but why do you start with zero volume? I usually have it at 50-75% since the first beat.
February 11, 2013 at 5:29 am #365552SHAE!
ParticipantLet me rephrase. For a 32 bar (128 beat) transition, on the incoming track, I start with the volume fader all the way down, cross fader in the middle, track PAUSED (I forgot to mention this before), and EQs as follows- Bass: all the way down. Mid: 10 oclock. Highs: 10 oclock. To start the transition, press play, and for 8 bars nothing will change. (since the volume fader is still off at this point). The reason for leaving the volume off at this point, is so you can cue the mix in your headphones before it comes out of the speakers live (Youll have 8 bars to cue). While cueing, you can align the beats, and tweak your EQs/gain if necessary, to make sure its gonna sound good for when it comes out of the live speakers. Once everything is intact, on the 9th bar of the transition, quickly turn the volume fader up to about 7/8ths. This will give you a sharp, clean starting point of the transition that your crowd will notice (and love), while keeping the main volume at pretty much the same level. If it sounds fine, leave it for 8 bars. After these 8 bars, youll be on the 17th bar of the mix. (your crowd has only heard 8). So…on exactly the 17th bar, your gonna wanna swap your mid and high EQs on both tracks. That means… Quickly turn your mids and highs up to 12oclock on the incoming track, while turning them down to 10oclock on your outgoing track. if done correctly, your mix will still remain at the same volume, and your incoming track will be more noticeable. If this sounds good leave it for 8 bars. Then on the 25th bar of the transition (your crowd has only heard 16), swap your volumes on both tracks. So now your incoming track should be increased to full, and your outgoing track should be decreased to 7/8ths, and leave this for 4 bars. Then, on the 29th bar, very slowly start turning the bass up to 12 oclock on the incoming track, while at the same time, slowly sliding the crossfader in the direction of your incoming track. Youll have 4 bars left to complete this motion, so make sure you properly time the bass and crossfader to finish right when you hit the 33rd bar. This is the beatmatch transition ill typically make with house music. Itll give you a smooth mix every time if done correctly, and keep your dancefloor energy high. I know this is long, so let me know if you understand it lol
February 11, 2013 at 9:18 am #36566DJ Vintage
ModeratorWow … take me to this place with soooooo many bars!
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