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February 6, 2013 at 3:10 pm #36278
Daryl Northrop
ParticipantFrom my experience and observation, mixing hip hop is very different than EDM. Given the syncopated beats and near constant prescense of vocals in hip hop, simple slam mixes or scratch-mixes seem to be the best way to go. Rarely is there an extended build up or outro to mix into/out of, as you have no doubt observed.
February 6, 2013 at 3:19 pm #36279Showbiz Connor
Participantthanks Daryl can you briefly explain what a slam mix is?
is it just a straight cut from one track to the next?
Thanks
February 6, 2013 at 3:23 pm #36280Daryl Northrop
ParticipantYes, that’s exactly right.
February 6, 2013 at 3:26 pm #36281Showbiz Connor
Participantcheers mate
February 6, 2013 at 5:29 pm #36289Michael Lawrence
Participanti have the same problem too and I do pretty much what Daryl said except I cant scratch š lol …..I would also consider download alot of electro/house remixes of hiphop tracks. To give you more variety if your the type of dj that likes to mix genres
February 6, 2013 at 6:36 pm #36292Jordylu1007
MemberShowbiz Connor, post: 36433, member: 7627 wrote: hi guys,
Iām strugglling to mix hip hop smoothly due to the irregular beats but more importantly the vocals on the tracks.
my sets are all good and have great flow thanks to MIK but the actual mixes can be a little messy if Iām trying to put two rap tracks together.
I’m experimenting with looping the start of the incoming track and mixing into the loop but do any of you more experienced guys. Obviously hip hop and EDM are very different so Iām finding that I have much less time to beat match
Any tips for cutting between tracks rather than mixing or any other common techniques am Iām struggling to find anything on line to help me
Thanks
Hey how ya doing? As a DJ who has been mixing Hip Hop for years and I means years from the time of 2 Turntables and a Mic there is a great advantage to having the software to make things happen in your mixes. Find yourself a clear four bar portion of the song that youcan loop. It may even have a bit of a vocal to it as long as the loop is chopped correctly by you. Use that loop as the transition to your next song by letting it play out as you bring the other song in. If you can scratch like Michael Lawrence mentioned then that will be even better. You don’t need to be able to crab scracth or do flares or chirps but a quick chop cut(the basic scratch where you just bring the record back and forth while clipping the crossfader back and forth) will do the trick. You can fade the loop out after you bring in your new song by doing a backspin and then applying an echo to it to fill the sound. Let that 4 bar loop go on for a total of 12 bars, bring your next song in on the begining of the 2nd go around of the 4 bar loop and by the time you get to the third loop you have established the next song in the mix.
February 6, 2013 at 6:36 pm #36293Showbiz Connor
ParticipantI’m finding the smoothest way to do it is to loop the first 8 beats of the incoming track and mix into that and come out of the autoloop,
It’s not ideal I’m just asking if there are techniques that a more experienced dj would use, I also have not yet learnt to scratch properly
February 6, 2013 at 6:40 pm #36295Showbiz Connor
ParticipantThats great advice jordy, jus what I was looking for!
Time to get practicing!
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February 6, 2013 at 7:03 pm #36297Jordylu1007
MemberThanks hope it helps you out. Don’t worry if you can’t scratch all that well the simple scratchs lots of times sound better than the DJ that is putting on a full show with the full arsenal of scratches when a simple zigga zigga would have made all the difference in the world. Sometimes I will do a full 60 minute mix for distribution and listen to it before I am ready to give it out and shake my head at some of the awful scratches I put in hahaha so it will ok keep on practicing I know I do. Also look at some of the blogs that have instrumental producers out there. These are great transition tracks. I do the same thing take a small loop like you have been doing and mix it in plus it gives you the chance to support unknown producers and play their tracks. Here is on of the sites I go to regularly and they have never failed me. strictlybeats.blogspot.com
February 7, 2013 at 11:50 am #36344Richard Driver
Participant“Find yourself a clear four bar portion of the song that youcan loop. It may even have a bit of a vocal to it as long as the loop is chopped correctly by you. Use that loop as the transition to your next song by letting it play out as you bring the other song in.”
nuff saidFebruary 7, 2013 at 3:21 pm #36363Coltrane09
ParticipantI typically do the same thing as the others pointed out except that instead of 4 bars I may take it to 8 to 16 bars depending whether or not I can incorporate the entire melody of the intro.
February 10, 2013 at 8:09 pm #36542DJ Urband
MemberWhen I mix between EDM and Hiphop or any genre I use the acapella to get a smooth transition. This technique helps me a lot. If all else fails just slam into the next track.
February 11, 2013 at 3:14 am #365492SHAE!
ParticipantShowbiz Connor, post: 36433, member: 7627 wrote: hi guys,
Iām strugglling to mix hip hop smoothly due to the irregular beats but more importantly the vocals on the tracks.
Even with hip hop, I typically beatmatch about 90% of my set. Obvsiously when you have a drastic temp change you need to find another way, but for songs with a similar tempo
1. Know your music inside and out. Know what works good with what, and what doesn’t.
2. Know your EQs and filters. Know exactly what frequency each EQ or filter can take out of the specific track your playing. This is much more important in hip hop since you have more irregular beat patterns
3. Pre-cue your music once youre familiar with the tracks. Place hot cues at your ideal intros, and before you move on, be sure to practice it, to make sure its ideal. Once you have it at the spot you prefer, leave a note in the comment section on what that cue means. For example: 8 bar intro, 4 bar intro, slam intro, loop intro, etc. Chances are, after mixing the track a few times, youll remember exactly what your cue is, and how your gonna transition in, without referring to the comment.
4. Loop Outro/Cue jump intro beatmatch: This is an advanced technique that combines the first 3 methods I explained above. I tend to use it alot in hip hop, and DnB. If your hip hop track doesn’t have an instrumental intro that you can beatmatch, go to the end of the song and see if you can find a workable instrumental there. You will be surprised with how many hip hop tracks have instrumental outros, so its good to take advantage of them. If there is an instrumental, place a cue point on the 1-beat of it, as well as a cue at the start of the track, on the 1-beat of where you want the track to come in. To beatmatch, you can loop the outro for as long as you need to, and slowly EQ it in to the out-going track. When making the transition, you will use the second cue (the cue on the 1-beat at the beginning of the track) and jump to it, from the end, while at the same time cutting the volume out of the outgoing track. This is a technique I taught myself, and Im not really sure if any other DJs do this for transitioning purposes, but with a few hours of practice, precise pre-cueing, proper EQing, and knowing your tracks inside out, it’ll come naturally, and impress any screen watchers š
February 11, 2013 at 3:16 am #365502SHAE!
ParticipantEven with hip hop, I typically beatmatch about 90% of my set. Obvsiously when you have a drastic temp change you need to find another way, but for songs with a similar tempo
1. Know your music inside and out. Know what works good with what, and what doesn’t.
2. Know your EQs and filters. Know exactly what frequency each EQ or filter can take out of the specific track your playing. This is much more important in hip hop since you have more irregular beat patterns
3. Pre-cue your music once youre familiar with the tracks. Place hot cues at your ideal intros, and before you move on, be sure to practice it, to make sure its ideal. Once you have it at the spot you prefer, leave a note in the comment section on what that cue means. For example: 8 bar intro, 4 bar intro, slam intro, loop intro, etc. Chances are, after mixing the track a few times, youll remember exactly what your cue is, and how your gonna transition in, without referring to the comment.
4. Loop Outro/Cue jump intro beatmatch: This is an advanced technique that combines the first 3 methods I explained above. I tend to use it alot in hip hop, and DnB. If your hip hop track doesn’t have an instrumental intro that you can beatmatch, go to the end of the song and see if you can find a workable instrumental there. You will be surprised with how many hip hop tracks have instrumental outros, so its good to take advantage of them. If there is an instrumental, place a cue point on the 1-beat of it, as well as a cue at the start of the track, on the 1-beat of where you want the track to come in. To beatmatch, you can loop the outro for as long as you need to, and slowly EQ it in to the out-going track. When making the transition, you will use the second cue (the cue on the 1-beat at the beginning of the track) and jump to it, from the end, while at the same time cutting the volume out of the outgoing track. This is a technique I taught myself, and Im not really sure if any other DJs do this for transitioning purposes, but with a few hours of practice, precise pre-cueing, proper EQing, and knowing your tracks inside out, it’ll come naturally, and impress any screen watchers š
February 11, 2013 at 1:29 pm #36571Showbiz Connor
ParticipantThanks 2Shae,
that all sounds like good stuff, i’ll give the outro technique a try tonight
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