As a DJ are you "Sound Obsessive"?
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July 11, 2011 at 3:52 am #3530
jezalenko
MemberYep, I’m almost OCD with this too. I have actually trained as a sound engineer, and while I only use this training occasionally, it makes a huge difference to the vibe in the venue when I give a damn. Having the wrong sound will usually drive the crowd away, not to you and the dance floor.
As a general rule I like to get there before the place opens and have a listen to the house system playing a couple of songs I use for soundcheck, so I can tell if there’s any major problems with the sound. This way I can fix thing with the house lights up, instead of trying to fiddle with cabs in the dark. Also I’ll get to know where the house mixer is, to I can adjust it when the venue is full of people, as the bass tends to be drowned out.
But yes, I do my best to make sure that the venue sounds good before I play, as one night of bad sound could ruin your reputation…..
July 11, 2011 at 8:15 am #3537U31
MemberAbsolutely… i think it goes with our territory to be honest, we do this because we love music…
One of the reasons i started was because of some of the points raised above.. pub dj’s getting paid for playing trash with crassly inappropriate settings ruining the soundJuly 11, 2011 at 5:15 pm #1000993Phil Morse
KeymasterYes, although I’m not “hi fi” obsessive – I want to sound clear, and warm, and thought about, but if I can make a ropey old 192kbps MP3 sound OK, I’ll play it whatever!
July 11, 2011 at 9:15 pm #3600Emma Partnow
MemberI am also a Sound Engineer; and having worked with Live Bands over a period of Years; it just comes Naturally to me that with DJ’ing; Sound is also As Important (if not More So in my Opinion);
However; I am Definitely with Phil on the ‘Ropey’ 192kbs MP3; if i can ‘Clean’ it up (and there is No Other Way of Obtaining a Better Quality Copy); I will Happily play it 🙂July 12, 2011 at 6:38 pm #3675Howitzer
MemberI’m 100% sound obsessive. I NEED good speakers, and really appreciate when a rig is properly setup and used right. It makes the night so much better.
Many people, and some DJ’s included, dont understand audio fatigue caused by pushing a system too far or bad quality music. Its quite subliminal, you’ll feel tired, ears hurting from the music, you’ll want to get away and take a break or whatever. Even if you really like the tunes being played.
So by not doing your part as the DJ and making sure youre bathing your audience with quality audio, you could actually be pushing people away from the dancefloor and maybe even the venue!
Ive seen too many dj’s pushing equipment way harder than they should. Cranking the gain and EQ is a classic. The red lights arent a target, theyre a warning!
July 12, 2011 at 7:04 pm #1001022Benny Mackney
MemberUgh, I’d hate to have to play on crappy speakers or a badly EQ’d system. So much hate.
July 19, 2011 at 7:59 am #4126Arthol Gibson
ParticipantIt’s awesome that this is a shared trait.. I’d happily check out any of your gigs because of this simple point of pbsession that others can woefully take for granted.
This was a good point as well:Howitzer, post: 3668 wrote: Many people, and some DJ’s included, dont understand audio fatigue caused by pushing a system too far or bad quality music. Its quite subliminal, you’ll feel tired, ears hurting from the music, you’ll want to get away and take a break or whatever. Even if you really like the tunes being played.
I’ve actually experienced that at alot of parties/shows and had to step away from the noise a few times to recoup.
One of the main factors that pushes me, coupled with horrid sound, is the use and abuse of dated and obnoxious samples/effects.
That’s a cocktail of sheer distaste for me.July 19, 2011 at 1:30 pm #4132Haroon
ParticipantUnfortunately I suffer from the condition known as Audiophilia :p Whilst I admit to having a good Amp and and speakers (Naim btw), its not what you got rather it getting the best out of what you have, even if its something like 2.1 you should take care, like Howitzer not to crank signals up and have them clipped, let your amp do the amplifying – leave headroom for effects etc. When going out to a club and its set up wrong you can always tell, as you will have ringing in your ears when you come out and for the next day or so. When a club PA system is properly set-up you dont get that.
July 22, 2011 at 11:36 pm #1001169DJ GRE
MemberI am sound obsessive as far as getting the sound in the club right… I don’t care what kind of shitty system I have to work with – there is a way to make it work. I played a gig at a buddys house using a spare guitar amp he had – don’t get me wrong, there was some crazy EQ work that had to be done but it’s always manageable. I constantly check the sound at any venue – my biggest peeve with DJs are when they have a monitor by their ears blasting and think that sound is exactly what the dancers are hearing… It’s not! and the red does NOT mean turbo!!!!
July 23, 2011 at 7:50 am #4436Phil Morse
KeymasterDJ GRE, post: 4414 wrote: I am sound obsessive as far as getting the sound in the club right… I don’t care what kind of shitty system I have to work with – there is a way to make it work. I played a gig at a buddys house using a spare guitar amp he had – don’t get me wrong, there was some crazy EQ work that had to be done but it’s always manageable. I constantly check the sound at any venue – my biggest peeve with DJs are when they have a monitor by their ears blasting and think that sound is exactly what the dancers are hearing… It’s not! and the red does NOT mean turbo!!!!
With you 100% on all of this
July 23, 2011 at 8:35 am #4439Alex Wild
ParticipantI cant believe how many times ive gone to set up and found all the EQs on the mixer turned up full. What was the last guy doing?! First thing I do is zero the mixer and start from fresh.
July 27, 2011 at 8:38 am #4714U31
MemberAlex Wild, post: 4432 wrote: I cant believe how many times ive gone to set up and found all the EQs on the mixer turned up full. What was the last guy doing?! First thing I do is zero the mixer and start from fresh.
There are SOOO many DJ’s out there who do that, volume faders at the top in stead of 3/4 way, EQ’s to the stops and gains up too high
July 27, 2011 at 9:47 am #1001219Phil Morse
KeymasterI think it’s good to see the overall picture – getting everything more or less right results in sound that’s more or less right, thus pretty much everyone has a great time. To do that takes far less effort than obsessively getting everything perfect, and frees time up to concentrate on what’s really important – in this case, music and fun!
A 192kbps MP3 that was mastered OK but not brilliantly, played through a sound system that’s reasonably well maintained on gear that’s just about up to the task, by a sympathetic DJ who’s tweaking the system to sound as good as he can make it, is fine – if he’s having the time of his live and the music is dope! after all, it’s a party, not a damped hi-fi auditioning room.
If all the things above are perfect (WAV file, brilliantly mastered, top-notch gear and PA, perfect signal path) but the track is poor in the first place and the DJ is obsessed with stuff the crowd don’t care about… well, I know which gig I’d rather be at. 🙂
That’s no excuse for pushing everything to 11 out of ignorance, mind… that makes me as angry as you guys too.
July 27, 2011 at 6:09 pm #4760DJ GRE
MemberExactly Phil… I mean being a start up DJ you’ve gotta understand every gig is an opportunity and a lot of lounges, hole in the wall bars etc. won’t have a wonderful system designed to handle DJ music – you’ve just gotta do the best you can and enjoy it!
July 27, 2011 at 7:54 pm #4765happydan
ParticipantI got complimented by a sound engineer when I was playing at a competition, for caring about the sound levels and quality! ::)
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