Mixing Tech House
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December 18, 2012 at 3:19 pm #33785
Hee Won Jung
ParticipantLayer that stuff. Progressive and Electro are more of a A to B as there is a lot of the sound spectrum used within a single track.
With Tech House/Deep/Soul/House, layer that shit…get track A going add in B add in C…sample…a bit from Deck D..
I really enjoy mixing what i will call “Euro” House…thats the real stuff…Stefano Noferini, Grabriel Rocha, Manuel De La Mere, all amazing tech house…but it can sound boring and dull to a crowd as the beat is so simple…just gotta add in more from other tracks….Mixing in Key helps a ton
December 18, 2012 at 3:49 pm #33786B.B. Koning
ParticipantHee Won Jung, post: 33941, member: 948 wrote: Layer that stuff. Progressive and Electro are more of a A to B as there is a lot of the sound spectrum used within a single track.
With Tech House/Deep/Soul/House, layer that shit…get track A going add in B add in C…sample…a bit from Deck D..
I really enjoy mixing what i will call “Euro” House…thats the real stuff…Stefano Noferini, Grabriel Rocha, Manuel De La Mere, all amazing tech house…but it can sound boring and dull to a crowd as the beat is so simple…just gotta add in more from other tracks….Mixing in Key helps a ton
Indeed, that is the real stuff. It doesn’t necessarily sound boring to all crowds by itself, however. I have been at gigs in Europe where it was the same tech house beat for nearly 24 hours (literally), and the crowd ate that shit up like candy.
I guess it depends on the room and the audience. Where I am now…no effing way it would work. All they want to hear is generic Guetta and Dubstep 24/7.
I definitely agree with you on layering though.
December 18, 2012 at 3:59 pm #33787Hee Won Jung
ParticipantYeah I find its very selective as to which crowds will go off on that type of music. I find adding in some vocal samples as well as keeping your highs and mids changing from bouncing from 1 of the 3 tracks i have running keep things different and interesting for the crowds i play for. If i were to let 1 gabriel rocha song go…which is like 7-8 minutes my crowd would fall asleep. So if i wanna cater to my musical tastes as well as theirs…i have to add in some other shit to keep them interested lol.
December 18, 2012 at 4:28 pm #33789Gilman
ParticipantAs I understand changing highs is essential in mixing tech house (in prog and electro not so). What about going from A to B. Which effects can I use for transitioning from A to B. I like Sebastien Leger but I find it harder to layer or transition between his tracks, since his music is more funky/complex (with more sound spectrum than many other tech house tracks).
December 18, 2012 at 4:55 pm #33794D-Jam
ParticipantMy rationale for mixing tech house is more on song selection. Too often I’ll see DJs into tech house play these long bland boring sets of minimal or near-minimal tunes.
My way is more to find energetic music, and more interesting music in production. Like any genre, you’ll see loads of bland copycat stuff. Take the time to really seek out the gems that will play well in front of a crowd…and don’t listen to the “music nerds” or “music snobs” who act like you betrayed the sound by infusing a little energy into it.
Long blends help as well. Tech house isn’t a music you do short blends on. So hold your beats (or use sync) and really practice on manipulating the EQs so it’s all fluid.
December 18, 2012 at 5:44 pm #33798Hee Won Jung
Participantgilman, post: 33945, member: 510 wrote: What about going from A to B. Which effects can I use for transitioning from A to B. I like Sebastien Leger but I find it harder to layer or transition between his tracks, since his music is more funky/complex (with more sound spectrum than many other tech house tracks).
Tech House is a very Minimal Style so you dont really want to use effects too much because most effects color the sound too much for such minimal music. However some effects that work well are the Echos and Delays, maybe a gate, but stay away from Flangers and Phasers as they create too much color.
As for mixing…dont think of it in a traditional sense…I will often let my entire track play out and not even cut out my 2nd track…i find that this adds a lot more depth.
Im gonna try my best to describe it here.
Start playing Track A, Cue up track B…lets say 1 minute in bring in Track B…you now have Track A and B going together, with EQing you can make either Track A or B more enunciated. Then Bring in Track C…As track A is on the outtro bring in Track D…when you want to reset your vibe Kill all your Tracks except 1 and build it back up again.
A lot of this has to do with proper EQing and just knowing your music. I know my explanation isnt the greatest but i really cant think of another way to describe it lol.The Biggest thing to remember about this genre is that it has Techno Roots…and that means that its a steady beat…disrupting the beat can really affect your floor for these sets…so add subtract and blend but never ever loose your steady beat.
One way that i will usually blend my tracks is first line up my beats and phrasing…then i will put all my EQs @ 9oclock and bring in my 2nd track…At the right moment i will either snap up to 12 and switch the other track to 9 or i will do a slow rise of the 2nd track to 12 and then cut down to 9 on the other track at the right moment(usually at the end of a 32beat phrase)
There is no wrong or right way…just what sounds good and what doesnt 😀
December 18, 2012 at 7:25 pm #33811J-Zed
ParticipantWhen it comes to tech I like to keep the tempo going. I’ll have the new track fully kick in just as the old one is beginning its outro. This way it’s buildup, peak, buildup, peak and it can keep going. I like to do that for a bit then I’ll throw in either a track with a long beatless breakdown or a longer track and let it play most of the way through and giving the next song a longer intro. I don’t play live much so I’m not sure how that would work on a crowd, but it really works on my mixes so I gues I’m doing something right.
December 18, 2012 at 8:25 pm #33813Hee Won Jung
ParticipantBut Tech-house doesnt usually have any build ups or peaks…they have breakdowns and then just go back to what was before the breakdown…Thats why they call it Tech House….You refer to beatless breakdowns but tech house doesnt have beatless breakdowns…there is always a kick, snare or hi hat that keeps a steady beat going.
You idea of Mixing tech-house is exactly what D-Jam was refering to when he is speaking about long boring bland mixes.
Sorry just read that and it sounded kinda harsh…not my intention.
December 18, 2012 at 9:15 pm #33816J-Zed
ParticipantHee Won Jung, post: 33969, member: 948 wrote: But Tech-house doesnt usually have any build ups or peaks…they have breakdowns and then just go back to what was before the breakdown…Thats why they call it Tech House….You refer to beatless breakdowns but tech house doesnt have beatless breakdowns…there is always a kick, snare or hi hat that keeps a steady beat going.
You idea of Mixing tech-house is exactly what D-Jam was refering to when he is speaking about long boring bland mixes.
Sorry just read that and it sounded kinda harsh…not my intention.
Tech house doesn’t have beatless breakdowns? I can go home and give you a list of many many tracks with beatless breakdowns. All house music has a intro, climax and outro. As for boring? I really don’t think you understood what I said or I worded it all wrong.
December 18, 2012 at 9:33 pm #33818Hee Won Jung
ParticipantYes House music does…but thats why its called Tech-House…Techno House…and the majority of Techno is not about buildups or breakdowns and about that steady rhythm.
Intro and Outtro yes…but not all EDM has a climax…like Techno lol
December 18, 2012 at 10:19 pm #33821J-Zed
ParticipantFYI the mix of mine you listened to has tech house songs with no beat breakdowns and techno with a climax. I could be using the wrong terms for these as well.
December 18, 2012 at 10:43 pm #33822Hee Won Jung
ParticipantYeah i was just seeing exactly what you are talking about…and i think we are using different terminolgy here.
Beatless breakdowns i refer to as something that has ZERO time signature…anything that has a time signature to it has a beat.So if i were to bring in any type of drums or what not into it then it would not clash.
TBH the mix was well done and technically it was very well put together…but there wasnt really much going on it with…it was simple and just song after song…Good song selection…but this type of mixing wouldnt work on a Dance floor as there is zero energy level…this is all just personal preference. IMO you need to create dynamics and energy…Tension and Release to move a crowd. You have a full 5 minutes roughly per song…thats like the entire body of a song…1 minute intro 5 minute song 1 minute outtro…7 minutes and thats the typical Techno/TechHouse pattern…so in essence all that is happening is you putting on a playlist of 13 songs in 1 hour…Tech House allows you to do SOOOOO much more and i think u need to take advantage of that.
just my 2 cents.
December 18, 2012 at 11:33 pm #33824J-Zed
ParticipantFinally we’re getting somewhere!
That mix definitely is not the most intense I’ve made and I have heard before that I need to increase my energy. It’s a habit of mine, I don’t like crazy bangers but more so lots of groovers. If I was playing live I wouldn’t be mixing like I do on my mixes, the tracks would be shorter and I would keep up the energy for sure.
December 19, 2012 at 9:30 am #33845Gilman
ParticipantThanks guys for lots of replies, very helpful. I’m already getting somewhere.
December 19, 2012 at 10:14 pm #33870Anonymous
InactiveTechno and tech house tracks sometimes have breakdowns, there are no fixed rules.
Anyway, it should be pretty easy to mix in/out tech house tracks, using simple techniques like killing the low end on one track and so on…
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