Unhappy, music chosen for me at my 2nd gig
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November 24, 2012 at 2:15 pm #32488
DJ Menno
ParticipantFor birthday parties I always ask what the people want. I was once playing beatles / santana / bon jovi / guns and roses for a birthday party, which is not “mixable” music. But it’s their private party, and they choose what they want to hear…
On the other side, you shouldn’t be cheap for a private event. Between the equipment and your fee per hour you should have a pretty money falling in your pocket. It’s not like you’re mixing in a club to get your name out there and just plug your mixer on the sound system.
Maybe make them an offer including :
– hiring of the equipment
– installating the equipment / uninstalling the equipment.
– fee per hour.And if they think it’s too expensive ask them how much an electrician takes per hour to come and repair electricity in their home…
It’s a give / give situation. Either they hire equipment, and play their own music through itunes or they take a DJ. It’s up to them to make a choice, you can’t have the best of both worlds 🙂
November 24, 2012 at 2:33 pm #32489aaron altar
ParticipantI think since you already accepted the gig it’s a little late to up your price. You’re kinda of stuck with this one but remember what Menno said for future gigs of this nature. If you would like you could speak to them about your feelings about the music. In the end, you should probably just play what they suggest and make the best of it. Don’t take it personal.
November 24, 2012 at 2:39 pm #32491John Simmons
ParticipantOk thanks for your reply DJ Menno. I know from booking DJs for a private party before they ask what I want & i’d give them general genres & a few songs, not every song for the entire night, just wasn’t expecting it after the feedback I got from my last gig. I’m not worried about mixing as much as what I play.
I’m only cheap at the moment because i’ve read you charge what you think your worth & i’m a beginner & I will make mistakes & I just wan’t to get out playing at the moment to build my confidence & experience. I’m hiring equipment cheap off of a relative but I definitely will charge more with experience. I don’t think I would of got the gig if I wasn’t charging what i’ve charged & it feels like a bit of a knock down but i’ll try & be more positive about it and think “ultimately they’ve chosen me”.
November 24, 2012 at 2:44 pm #32492John Simmons
ParticipantOk thanks rjwhite41. I’ve decided to play what I like out of what they’ve given me because i’m going to have to cut out about half of the songs & i’ll play literaly a few they haven’t given me but I think they might like. If I haven’t played one of their favourites then they’ll probably come up and request it. I’ll try and play a bit of all the genres they’ve given me too.
November 24, 2012 at 4:36 pm #32498gbadegesin
Participant“He who pays the piper, dictates the tune” but the piper knows which tunes will/should work.
In other words, most people always think they know what music will rock their party or what their friends want to hear. In my experience, what i do is i tend to mix it up. I would usually start with what they want, try some of my ‘safe’ stuff, if it works, i will stay, if it doesn’t , i will go back to their list.
Also, if they come knocking, i’ll just flip back to their list and bear the consequences. A big part of djaying is human relations.November 24, 2012 at 8:35 pm #32515John Simmons
ParticipantOk thanks for the advice. I’ve now realised they’re just songs they like, not “must play only”. A fair few of the songs I was thinking of playing anyway so I will be playing there choices & still have a bit of freedom. The lad pretty much wants more of what he heard before, the girl some, but more commercial. It’s helped to get an insight into what they like actualy. So i’m feeling more confident about it now & looking forward to it again.
November 25, 2012 at 5:19 pm #32531aaron altar
ParticipantGood job. You handled the situation really well.
November 26, 2012 at 7:55 am #32568Terry_42
KeymasterIndeed, be professional about it. Play as many as you can, but mix your stuff in and be true. During such a gig even talk to the organisers a bit if everything is OK. Be calm and professional and everything will smooth out.
November 26, 2012 at 9:41 pm #32616Hee Won Jung
ParticipantI didnt see if this was in the OP but are you playing at the same club, just for someones birthday…so technically, you are the promoter for the evening/DJ and they are just having the birthday party there? Is the venue involved in anyway between yourself and the birthday party? If thats the case then this is a little different but, If you are being hired outside of a venue, you are a mobile DJ and the rules for a Mobile DJ change dramatically than a club DJ. Playing requests and playing what the people who are paying you want is key. You need to be able to play any assortment of music. As well it is good practice at this point to start getting basic contracts setup between yourself and the client.
It is always a hassle and some people go about the whole “you dont trust me? I dont want to sign a contract”
You can just use the whole, hey man it just keeps both of us on the same page, and brush it off on someone else like, im sorry man it keeps us on the same page, and i hate to do it but the owner of my promo company requires that any gigs we take have to be in contract for like tax purposes and stuff so we have actual records ( even if u are owner, and sole proprieter)
Payment, make sure that if you have a set payment, that you recieve 50% of the payment up front…people tend to do stupid things when they get too drunk, dont need to be a dick about it, but this is a job for you, and your job is to make sure they are having fun.
I did this car show once outside in a empty parking lot, our fee for 6 hours including equipment was 500, as it was a favor for another friend of mine. Playing nothing but oldies and classic rock…yay for pushing play…no talent required at all…im pretty sure if i had a monkey for a couple of weeks i could have taught it to DJ this mobile gig :D.
They wanted us to play till 3pm, but they asked us to play for another hour. We charged an extra 150 for the 1 hour, and since we had done a great job with good music they didnt even balk at the extra 150.
Be fair, but be firm, dont get used and abused.
November 27, 2012 at 3:50 pm #32676Richard Driver
Participantyea man i second Hee Won Jung. The rules for the mobile dj are completely different but can be a start of a good second income. When I do private parties, I have one rule. The person who is paying me is who I will be playing for. I would have already discussed what genres to be played and what kind of a crowd. Will there be the very young like kids and mature crowd like grandma and grandpa (think clean edits, line dances, and pop music) or will it be a 20 something frat party ya feel me? Are there genres that are off limits regardless of requests from the patrons such as hard rap or country, or should I play all request I receive. Remember the golden rule, he who has the gold makes the rules. In addition, I would have a different take on this situation. As a Dj, you have to look at every situation as an opportunity to learn something new. Grab the program “mixed in key” if you are not familiar with musical theory and fucking give it you best shot to blend that Bon Jovi with Kid Rock. I encourage you to try and learn to mix different genres. I was first strictly a chicago house Dj for a while but found this to limit myself from gigs and I also found that it was allot easier to get a “mobile” gig than a club gig. So I had to learn about all types of music. Now I mix allot of genres and I’m talking about mixing, beat matching genres like r&b, mo-town. I even did a country cd!!!! Plus when you are more versatile with your music play, you WILL SCORE MORE MOBILE GIGS. I always try and talk to everybody at the party and hand them a business card. Just remember that if you play what the crowd wants to hear, you can get away with introducing (what a Dj should always do) to them to a new song or perhaps a remix of a popular song (my favorite thing to do) or even a mash up you do on your own! Thats whats separates fader jockeys (playing one song into another;no mixing) from the real music (Dj) lovers. Good luck and remember there are many avenues a Dj make take and all are good if its putting $$$$ in your pocket.
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