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    Generally speaking you should aim for a 0dB level path all the way to either the amp of your passive speakers or your powered speaker inputs. So starting with channel gain/trim at 0dB, then master up so the master output is 0dB (average, it can peak to the next light = typically +3dB) as well. You now have a 0dB output signal to your amps/speakers. This will be your max setting for the night with the channel fader fully up and the master fader/knob at the setting you just made (be sure to mark it with a bit of white gaffa tape or something). At this point you are 100% certain that when you run the loudest level you will all night your amps will get an undistorted 0dB signal offered. Clearly you will want to run balanced cables everywhere. Now set your amps to their 0dB levels (or at least so they stay just below clipping) and mark this position as well. This is as loud as your amps should go. Do the same with the level knobs on the powered speakers. Those don’t usually have meters on them, so just turn them up til the clipping light starts to come on occassionally and then tune it down a notch.

    At this point your entire sound chain is running at max. continuous power output. Anything over this will push you into the red and into distortion. Not loud enough? Then you need a bigger system.

    Now you can use the master fader/knob to turn things down at the beginning at the evening and slowly raise it as needed until you hit the max. mark and then it’s done.

    Hope that helps some.

    #2491991
    Tanner Weir
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    Thank you for the reply! Everything on my mixer is below 0db, and my amp doesn’t have db markings, so I’m assuming the 12o’clock position is 0db (either way, the amp isn’t clipping). On the powered speakers that were distorted, the input was turned up 1-2 degrees (not even close to 0db) and the main volume control was set the same way. I had to turn my mixer way down for the American Audio speakers to stop distorting, but at that point the volume was too low on my passive speakers.

    Even if I connect to the powered speakers without the mixer, the laptop has to be turned way down to keep from distorting. I’ll try setting the left channel to my passive speakers, and the right channel to my powered speakers and see if that fixes the issue (that way I have more accurate control of the volume level, I was previously using a monitor output, which was also unbalanced)

    #2492011

    One thing I know about many AA speakers is they also have mic inputs. Could it be you accidentally used those? The line level difference is rather large and the signal passes through the mic pre-amp before being offered to the built-in amp and could very well cause the behavior you mention.

    #2492141
    Tanner Weir
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    That could of been the problem, but I think I used a 1/4″ plug and went into the “Line In” since i was using the 1/4″ monitor output on my board. Thanks!

    #2492321

    How about just daisy-chaining your signal (your amp probably has a line out as well as a line in) for testing purposes. This guarantees that both get an identical signal.

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