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    Peter Lindqvist
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    Hello Karlton!

    The easy way to recommend USB sticks is say ”buy usb3, the expensive ones”. That will in most cases give you fast and durable sticks with 5-10 years warranty. They also come in all shapes and form. I recommend the smaller ones because it’s lesser risk of someone bending it destroying the stick or/and the usb port while playing.

    Since a year back I have moved to SSD’s in external 2.5” usb3-case. I have 2 identical 250 GB SSD’s. I store about 12000 tracks that I bring with me at all times. They work perfect with all the XDJ’s, 700/1000/1000Mk2/RX and the Nexus’s/Nxs2’s. The older 350/850/900 and even the first 2000 has problems to read that many songs/playlists. You get the not so fun ”WAIT” when switching between playlists. The 2000’s is ok, usually not more than 3-5 secs WAIT, but he other models, no. For those I still use my USB-sticks up to 32 GB, if I have to use them, or I’d rather bring my own players. I’m fortunate to have the Nxs/Nxs2’s that I can bring when needed.

    My preferred sticks has been The Patriot Supersonic Rage XT. I used them for almost two years updating them every week and still have them for backup. I think they are replaced with a newer model now.

    The benefit of using SSD’s is several. 1. Extremely fast transfer speed when moving music to them. Sometimes saves the day 🙂 . 2. High quality SSD’s + external case gives you twice the space for half the price compared to high quality sticks. I use the Samsung 850 Evo. 3. It’s usually enough space to bring both Rekordboxed music and plain folders that you can use for Serato or any other software. 4. Still small enough to fit in your pocket and also easy to tuck away while playing making it harder for someone to steal it. 5. If you discover that SSD’s wasn’t for you, you can always use them for your computer 🙂 .

    Note. The slow performance I experience with older CDJ’s could be related to which file system is used. I use Fat32 for best compatibility and I use Windows computers. It could be that the Apple file system is better, but I cant say because I don’t use Macs. Perhaps someone else has knowledge to share about this.

    #2464441
    Tord
    Participant

    Hi!

    I’ve always favored SanDisk product. They are one of the leaders in memory cards, and offer a vast assortment of sizes and durability options. Unless you use the memory sticks as Swiss Army Knives, I don’t see why you would need a very rugged one. If you keep it in a casing with your DJ gear, it’s more than enough. The “rugged” part is usually the wrapping, extra layers of protection against moisture and stuff like that – it doesn’t really mean that the drive itself is more rugged.

    There are many providers of hardware encrypted memory drives. Several of them are, according to the Pioneer DJ boards, not compatible with CDJs.

    Also, keep speed in mind. If you are using uncompressed files, like FLAC, AIFF or similar. Uncompressed files are huge in size, and this greatly affects loading times on CDJs. A faster memory drive will load tracks faster. CDJ-900NXS and CDJ-2000NXS support USB 2.0, while NXS2 and XDJ-1000 incl. MK2 support USB 3.0.

    BR Tord

    #2464461
    Mike N
    Participant

    Hi Dj Peter. Sorry to divert off the topic but which windows based pc you use and specs.

    Mike

    #2464531
    DJ Vintage
    Moderator

    I know our colleagues over at DJ Tech Tools did a test on them some time ago, worth reading as they cover the general characteristics as well as a few specifics.

    I bought the Corsair Survivors, pretty expensive, but – provided you put the covers back on when you transport them – also pretty indestructible, including ending up in the laundry machine when you forget to take it out of your pants pocket.

    With the lousy way of searching for tracks on most units that accept USB sticks, I personally keep only my core collection on a stick, limited to somewhere in the 1.200 to 1.500 track range. So 32GB for high res MP3 or AAC256 is plenty big, but if you prefer lossless (even WAV), a 64GB would even do the trick.

    #2464661
    Terry_42
    Keymaster

    I exclusively use SanDisk and Corsair only. Those 2 companies have never let me down.
    Also I go for the “bigger” sticks, not the smallest form factor. The bigger sticks usually have faster performance and are easier to label, as I tend to have multiple sticks on a lanyard.

    #2464701
    Peter Lindqvist
    Participant

    Hey Mike! Not so off topic… At least it’s connected, but perhaps it should be moved to it’s own thread. Moderator decides.

    Besides working as a DJ I also work with computers and everything related to them. I have used my knowledge to build my own machines over the years. My main computer for the moment is a 3 year old AMD 8 core @ 4.4 Ghz, 16 GB 2133 DDR3, OS drive Samsung 250 GB 840 pro, Windows 10 Pro. For storage I have 6 internal Hdd’s, a total of 16 TB and 2 external 2 TB Hdd’s.

    If I had the money I’d upgrade to an Intel 6-core/12 threads, but this one will have to last a couple of years more…

    What’s important to me is the fact that the 8 cores is fully utilized when I use Rekordbox, Mixed-In-Key and Platinum Notes4. To process 200 tracks are a no-brainer through all 3 stages and the final step, exporting to my two external SSD’s I use for my music. I can do all of it within an hour. Comes in handy busy Fridays when every minute counts to get the last music ready to play… As long I’ve sorted the music and picked the ones I want/need to add, this is the last step of my work flow every week. Of course it’s not always 200 tracks, but you get the idea…

    Using Sata 3 drives and USB3 is important to get the speed wanted here. A couple of times a year I clean out my SSD’s and export everything back, +12000 tracks (120GB). Doing this to two SSD’s in no problem to manage during a day. It’s nice to clean out bad playlists/tracks and knowing everything is OK now and then. Every time I update my laptop, AMD 4 core @ 2.0 Ghz, I get reminded why I need a fast primary computer for my music. Everything takes at least 5 times longer on the laptop. That’s 5 hours vs 1 hour doing the same job.

    This is about saving the unpaid time you need to prepare for the weekends, so assume you can save 1 hour/week… do the math and it’s quite easy to motivate an investment in a faster computer 🙂 .

    #2464861
    DJ Vintage
    Moderator

    The only bad thing about AMD CPU’s is that they are usually not supported (well) by DJ software. So while great for those jobs as described (have a 6-core AMD desktop myself and it get’s right busy when doing bulk work in MiK and Platinum Notes or doing other CPU-intensive tasks), I’d 100% use an Intel-based system for actual DJ-ing (Mac/Windows).

    #2464871
    Karlton Bethea
    Participant

    Thanks all for your posts and advise. Always great to start a discussion that shares the knowledge
    (learn something new everyday, my daddy used to say). I appreciate it as always.

    Karlton Bethea
    aka “AntiQue”

    “If Music Be The Food Of Love…Play on”
    -Billy Shakespeare

    #2464911
    Terry_42
    Keymaster

    Yes the use of AMD CPUs is highly discouraged when DJing.

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