When the accident happens. What then?
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May 18, 2016 at 11:32 pm #2396651
DJ Vintage
ModeratorFirst of all, as a fellow DJ I sympathize and hate that this happened to you.
If I understand correctly, you knew they had the Numark and that it wouldn’t handle RB sticks, so that is the reason you brought your own gear.
On a more general note and not to say anything about this particular gig, there are a few things to watch:
1) Make sure your gear is insured properly. You had the luck of a band playing for a while, giving you time to act without interrupting your program. Generally speaking that is a luxury that is not there. So all you can do in case of such a terminal disaster, is switch to plan B and worry about the damage (a lot) later. If you are properly insured, at least you know you can just go buy new gear after the gig.
2) Have a clause in your contract that stipulates that any and all damage done by visitors of the venue, either direct or indirect, and or any damage that was not specifically caused by you, the DJ, is the responsibility of the venue. Clearly they won’t sign this if you choose to bring your own gear, while they are offering gear to play on, but if you are asked to bring your own gear, this should be in your contract.
3) The risk with an all-in-one are not bigger/smaller than with a 2 CDJ/mixer combo. Had the drinks spilled over/into the mixer it would have been end of story too. This time it was drinks spilled, a not uncommon phenomenon, next time it’s overheating, technical failure, etx. Point in case being that whatever you use as your primary setup, you ALWAYS need a plan B (and preferably plan C and if you are slightly autistic/compulsive you might care about having a plan D).
4) Have a backup for your backup. I have written in a bit more detail in another post about the way I set up my (mobile) DJ gear and it’s at least triple-redundant, with no single point of failure. Regardless of what piece of gear goes down, I am able to continue with music within 10 seconds or so. If the damage is permanent (as opposed to restarting a laptop or CDJ for example), I usually have gear to backup so I can continue something resembling a normal set. With some practice you CAN seriously DJ on an iPad app if need be. Sure, you may not be able to do all the big FX, performance pad, jog juggling and such that you can do on regular gear, but I know that if I am left with only my iPad, I can still finish the night in style.
For the price of a DJM800/900NXS with two 2000NXS(2)s you can buy an excellent controller, with an iPad controller for backup, a small PA mixer (with USB sound card built in) to hook your controller up to as well as an iPad or iPhone with an emergency mix ready, two (non-pioneer) CD-players (that can double as deck 3-4 controllers for your software too) and a few other bits and bobs and still have some money left over to put it all in professional flight cases.
In your particular case I understand where your reaction comes from, but I don’t agree that carrying a modular setup is the solution here.
I do think it is really strange that the organisation offers a Numark controller as, in stark contrast to Pioneer standard club gear, there is no such thing as a standard controller. Your software needs to support it (driver, mapping), it needs to have the buttons you are used to, etx. So the venue should either offer the option of bringing your own gear (controller) or provide club standard gear which would include spare CDJ and mixer. Typically a festival setup is 4 decks (not just to have 4 decks but for backup purposes as well) and there is always a second mixer backstage.
BTW, I have been to most places and done that and messed up a few fine t-shirts. I have stuff fail on me left right and center in 39 years on the decks. Being able to stay cool and work with what’s left (like you clearly did) will get you out of a pickle. As you noted, the audience hardly ever pays as much attention to what we do as we think they do. As long as your music selection is spot on, you can get away with murder.
To prove my point, two weeks ago I played a wedding. Apart from a few moments on the mic (it was a wedding after all) and three time using filter (which I could have NOT done, but I was bored LOL), I used NO FX, minimal beatmixes and went through the night with drop and cut mixes primarily. Everyone was dancing and had a great time. It was a challenge to myself to see if I got still play a night if I were faced with such gear that the only option would be cut and drop mixing. And presto, it can still be done.
In conclusion: be prepared for (almost) every eventuality and don’t fret loss of features too much if you are switching to backup plans; you can get away with a lot more than you thought possible.
I am glad to hear your gear had no permanent damage and I hope this once in 30 years won’t make you anxious for future gigs.
May 19, 2016 at 3:04 am #2396691Peter Lindqvist
ParticipantHey Mr. Vintage!
Always read your posts, wise words of experience. Thanks for your response. As you probably have guessed, I’m not really new to this and I’m still in the game. I thought this would make interesting reading, especially for all aspiring DJ’s who may think about ”what if…”.
A couple of notes, reality of being a DJ in Sweden.
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There is no way you can insure DJ gear in Sweden anymore. There is one way i can think of, which will cost as much as a
new setup every year. There used to be, but not since more than 10 years. The ONLY way is to get the person responsible,
accident or not, to pay for the damage. Since a year, there is a precedential ruling on who is responsible when things
like this happens in a DJ booth. It says that unless someone else has caused the accident, the one causing the damage will
have to pay for it. That’s what caused me to react the way I did towards the guard. Also the club owner could claim
compensation for the consequences of the damage, both direct and future.2.
Where I’m directly involved with the DJ’s, either responsible for, or as a resident, things like this are not likely to
happen, as we build protection around our valuable gear. Goes for the permanent installed and whatever we bring ourselves.
The problem always occurs when getting booked through an agency with no or very limited contact with the club owners.
Sometimes the DJ booth is better than best, sometimes not so… As for gear, 90% of the times the club has rekordbox
friendly players and where I play it’s very rare that anyone have computer connected. It’s usually guest DJs who bring
that. I still do about 100 gigs/year and a third is via a DJ agency. No fancy stuff, just ”go there” ”play that” but
usually fun gigs.Unfortunately, at least in Sweden, some club owners are using the fact that more and more DJ’s bring
their own equipment, to avoid updating their own. The Numark all in one is a typical example of that. It’s their
equivalence to the Pioneer XDJ-R1. It forces us to bring CD’s to use it and I more or less stopped using mine 2009. I
have a complete new system for how I organize my music today that goes very well with Rekordbox and burning CD’s for all
my gigs won’t happen. If the club don’t provide adequate equipment for me to play on, I certainly will not take
responsibility for that unless i get very well paid for it. It’s a hole other game when i do mobile gigs, but then, I do
get well paid 🙂 . This time, I told the owner that if I had used his Numark, the night night would have been over with
three hours to go. I also told the agency and hopefully, next time there will be a protective plexi and players that read
Rekordboxed usb’s.3.
Today, if you play in a club, the unspoken rule is that the club provides the gear to be used and you as a DJ provide a
pair of head phones, music and the skill and knowledge how to use it. That makes it easy to know who will have to fix
whatever is not working. Most DJ’s will sit their ass down and wait for ”good to go”. If you bring anything in to the
booth, the responsibility automatically becomes yours. With what I’ve said before, that could get you into a tricky
situation you’d rather not be into, if something bad happens. In a couple of clubs we have solved it by dividing the
responsibility between the Booth and the PA. We get paid to bring whatever we wanna play on, and as long as the guide-
lines for how to connect our gear is followed, the responsibility stays in the Booth.4.
For mobile gigs i have all the backup I could possibly need, no computer thought 🙂 . I have my XDJ-R1, CDJ-1000s and
several mixers. Still have all my CDs and one emergency party-case with about 3000 party tracks and I still burn a
couple of emergency CD’s with new party tracks every year. I’ve had my Nexuses for three years now and have already
ordered my Nexus 2 setup. Hopefully that can stay home for a couple of years while I continue to use my existing gear.
Not getting any younger but i think i can bring it for a few more years in the clubs. Then, I’ll retire to mobile gigs
and start making money 🙂 , and most of what you say about controllers will probably be my opinion as well.For the part ”stuff fail on me left right and center”, I really don’t have that much experience of that. I get extremely frustrated when all my work and expectations goes out the window because of technical failures, so during the years, I’ve written off everything that has ever created problems for me in the Booth. That includes a number of Denon and Numark players
and as i work with computers… well, I use them for preparations and keep my music on them 🙂 . This has made me bring my own gear since 1994 when almost all the clubs in Sweden transferred over to Denon dual CD-players. The Denons ruled every Booth until about 2006-07 when Pioneer took over, finally. I bought my first Pioneer setup 94/95, the 500’s, upgrading about every 5th year, and in all those years, they’ve never ever even skipped a beat, until this accident happened. But that’s not really anything to blame Pioneer for… The fact that a few hours of cleaning and drying was enough to get it up and running again, makes it even more unlikely that i switch over to something else. Not as long as It’s an investment and not a cost. I have a boss at home i need to explain my expenses to every time, so please don’t give her any ideas 😉 . I started out with a double cassette deck and a belt driven turntable, so after more than 30 years in the job I think I’ve earned the right to use the top-of-the-line gear of my choice 🙂 . I still use my old gear now and then, and I’ll do fine as long as i have cue, play and two channels to mix with. My take on every job is to do the best of my ability, and that sometimes requires my nexuses and a decent mixer to do.This will make me do some adjustments to my preparations and hopefully this can be of use to some else, before any accident happens. To be able to see the night through was important, not only for the club, but for me personally. As the saying goes: It’s not the problem you have that defines you, it’s how you tackle them that does.
May 19, 2016 at 8:27 am #2396871DJ Vintage
ModeratorThanks for the reply. Don’t think we are too far apart on most issues. Locations vary and some things you say are different here, but that is not really relevant for the general idea.
In clubs if you use house gear it’s their responsibility, if you bring your own, the part you bring is your responsibility (if only to be able to continue on house gear if drinks get spilled on your gear).
Mobile, you bring the gear, so it’s your responsibility either way. Clearly this is where the backup plans set in.
I have played on lots of gear, some of it old or just shabby. Mixers with channels giving out, TTs with platters refusing to move anymore mid-song. CD players skipping bad. And that is not counting the drinks and other “accidents”, like someone knocking over a mobile booth once in a drunken stupor. And this was the days without iPhones and such. I ended up moving over to the house install, which was effectively a 19″ rackmounted mixer with knobs missing, mounted vertically with a dual-CD player in the same rack. All mounted on the backwall of the bar. I was standing with my back facing the audience on a beer soaked floor with bar staff squeezing by to serve their customers. Not a happy memory LOL.
I too have used lots of Denon gear over the years. We only recently SOLD! our 2600s after about 25 years of use. Just bi-annual cleaning and readjusting of the lasers and the stuff was totally indestructible.
Some of my friends work maintenance at rental companies and they open up Pioneer gear on a (very) regular basis. I am quite sure they don’t share your view on build quality, but that is a different discussion altogether.
Thanks again for sharing your story.
May 24, 2016 at 6:31 pm #2399721DJ Arleen
ParticipantHi, I’m nowhere near as experienced or busy as you folks. I’m older and when I retired I decided to make money at something I was doing now and then for free on a mish mash of equipment. I do small parties, 50-100 folks in the 50 and above age range and do Dance and Karaoke BUT what you all described has happened to me and my mentor taught me well about being prepared. I have backup PA system and speakers, backup laptop, full redundant copy of my external hard drive where my music is stored, extra cables of all kinds, extra corded mics and my old trusty Ipod loaded with all my music ( yes, I’m older and still have the wonderful Ipod classic..lol) . I even have a fine Boom Box with an Ipod dock just in case the mixer goes dead. The Ipod saved my butt at a nice pool party recently where my cable from Laptop to the mixer died and hence, no sound… I just plugged in the Ipod into the boom box and there was decent music while I set up my spare….folks barely noticed. The key is, as has been mentioned, don’t panic….. that makes your brain freeze up!!! Breathe and problem solve…sounds easy and when you are “new”… it’s really hard to stay calm but do it anyway…. it’s not heart surgery, it’s dancing…folks will not die if you have a mishap. Thanks for the really great insights too…. DJ Arleen
May 25, 2016 at 8:40 am #2399901Terry_42
KeymasterI actually never had this happen to me again since I use a controller.
Not that someone did not spill things, but for 100 bucks you get a DJ screen, if that wont fit for 60 bucks you get a table screen. Not that will not totally splash proof it, but the barrier is there. Then most of the time my controller sits on something to raise it up (flightcase or a self made riser if I go with backpack), so even if stuff comes under the screen it wont sit in it. The laptop is on a stand anyways.
So yes stuff got wet, but is was mostly cables and 90% of splashes were cought by the screen(s).
And this is my without investing hundreds of bucks for backup (which I have too).
And I still love my home theatre with HD beamer and THX 7.1 system plus some sonos speakers and my controller setup and laptop that I got from selling all my Nexus gear and technics decks 🙂 So again broke, but much happier. -
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