The 'hype' of the big names
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April 10, 2016 at 11:46 pm #2382411
Todd Oddity
ParticipantBigger names will inherently have people show up in more of a “this is a concert” mentality than just a regular night out with the local DJ. People will swing from the chandeliers for music they would normally not even stand up for, let alone go all dancey-dancey crazy.
April 12, 2016 at 9:35 am #2382961Terry_42
KeymasterGive it your best shot.
I have even played warm-up on big festival before some big names.
People will still have fun, but of course they are waiting for the main act. So yes when the big name gets on stage, the crowd will go mental and they will never do that for you… it is just what it is.
Some of the big names will be a bitch about it and some may even be gentlemen get on stage while you are still there and shake your hand etc. so next time this crowd sees you, you will get more hype just because of that. (Not saying names here who is what type hehe)
Best thing that happened to me was international mega star DJ invited my to stay up for his into tune and raised my hand before I got off stage… never got cheered like that before in my life… so it can have its good sides if the star is not a brick.April 12, 2016 at 3:48 pm #2383231BloodRazor
ParticipantThanks for your replies.
@Terry_42 wow it really sounds incredible ๐Well my main thing -as I mentioned on the original post also- is that there is a club where I spin that if I don’t play some bangers, there is no way people are going to dance (In da Club, Jump Around etc.). But then, when a local big DJ comes for a gig on this exact club/bar, he just plays some deep house, and everybody are like ‘omg he is so good’…If you let me next week, same day to play the EXACT tracks he played with the same order, everybody will start leaving after 20’…
Maybe the question could be, how these people created this hype around their names, so that whatever they play people get crazy?
April 12, 2016 at 7:02 pm #2383541Todd Oddity
ParticipantIt may not just be a big name vs small name thing – at one of my residencies I’ll have a month straight of people loving everything I throw at them, then a week where absolutely nobody will dance (well okay, not nobody, but you get the point – it feels way harder than it should to keep people moving).
You never get exactly the same mix of people in a building from one week to the next, and that mix can totally change the vibe of the night. Maybe this guy you are referring to has a handful of loyal supporters showing up when he plays that LOVE what he plays. That is infectious and spills over onto the rest of the crowd. When you play, they aren’t there so no spillover.
April 12, 2016 at 8:20 pm #2383601BloodRazor
Participantฮ see your point. Also, here where I study (Bulgaria) at 8/12 there is a college student’s special holiday, where everybody goes clubbing like crazy and gets drunk (mostly in tourist resorts)..I’m looking forward to talking with some club’s promoters about these days, ’cause last year I saw some average DJs making the crowd going crazy…exactly because of what you said..People were on ‘party’ mode…:/
April 13, 2016 at 7:34 am #2383831DJ Vintage
ModeratorIt is not exclusive to DJ-ing. I have seen very funny stand-up comedians that got barely a laugh only to have the mainliner come on and people already laughing before he even uttered his name.
It’s what we do. Reputation precedes us and we tend to lean towards “well, it’s so-and-so, so if he picks it, it must be good”.
Not a whole lot you can do about it, other than be true to yourself and your crowd.
April 14, 2016 at 8:06 pm #2384531Halfamazing Debrassy
ParticipantThere are a couple factors involved here:
#1 the old system is dead but we don’t know what is to replace it. So if you haven’t achieved internationally known or local “big name” status, you will never achieve the reaction by the people. The current system is NOT designed for you. But in reality, you should be the star but are not and for a reason. Standing in front of a dj watching him or her as if the dj was an animal at a zoo is totally different than everyone dancing and engaging.
#2 nightclubs today are event driven whereby local talent and culture is not groomed to become stars at home. Social media plays a big roll and the job of the promoter is to bring people in. Djs become stars in other cities before they can return and be appreciated in their own city AFTER. They didn’t even get a chance to play their song at clubs in their own cities but are being flown all over the place now. (Everyone has different experiences but we are speaking in general terms as a whole). The death of the dj residency has taken away the ability for identity, ability to break local music, push talent fwd, and maintain a regional dynamic. Now, it’s about playing host to guest djs or playing along 4-5 djs for 1 hour sets.
#3 booking agencies and promoters have killed the game as well. It’s a cash money business so to speak and people come to clubs for the “sound” not music. This is why people will go to a club because “deep house” or “techno” is playing. Not because they want to be taking on a musical journey. They want to hear what they like. So the promoter is going to contact the local booking agency and supply them with what the flavor of the month music is. Now, itโs deep tech, tech house/techno.
We can argue all we want about the minor differences. The bottom line is that guest djs are praised moreso than the home dj. Imagine if Spain praised the guest team over the home football team? This is the same concept for djing. The country’s best player is the man in football. He comes before anyone. All artists represent their city and state. But djing? Forget about it today. Before, yes.
So, the old way is broken, local djs are not getting cultivated, but we still don’t know what is going to replace even the current way.
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