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  • #2351611
    Todd Oddity
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    Sounds very much like you are on the path to becoming a DJ to me! That’s alright – step one is denial. 😉

    I would suggest what you need is a very small sound board. Something with a USB card in it. This would connect to your computer. Then from the sound board you could connect all your speakers, and have reasonably good volume control over them and the ability to adjust the EQ a little to make the speakers sound better in your room.

    Good luck!

    #2351631
    DJ Vintage
    Moderator

    Hummm … wondering if I should … well … guess I will … here goes nothing.

    To begin with, while adults have their own responsibility to protect their ears, when you entertain youngsters, that responsibility transfers to the parents (who are usually rather ignorant about the potential dangers) and the host (and through the host to anyone controlling the volume).
    It pays to get a decibel (dB) meter (simple ones can be had as smartphone apps, not terribly accurate but sufficient for the purpose) and to start measuring the sound level at the closest place people will be to the speakers and at approximately the middle of the dance floor. Then look at a good decibel chart to see how long you can expose ears to that sound level before (potentially irreparable) hearing damage occurs. If you have it up to the level of a construction site for example (100dB), 1 hour is the max. Lowering it by 5dB to 95 it’s double that, still only two hours. But 5 dB lower in sound is a pretty big step (for example to add 3dB sound level you have to DOUBLE your power, i.e. from 100 to 94 dB is 1/4 of the original power).
    The nasty thing here is that the actual results of the abuse might not show themselves until you are in your 40s or later and one day wake up with a ringing in your ears that doesn’t go away anymore and might just increase. It’s called tinnitus and it’s serious. Other trouble are early (partial) deafness, hyper-acusis (sp?) which is hyper sensitivity to certain frequencies and generally loss of tolerance for “normal” environment sounds, and early “old” hearing meaning you start to lose the high frequencies a lot earlier than you should.

    If you want to be safe, you’d have to give all the kids a set of party plugs, they’ll still hear the music, but won’t hurt their hearing. Or you have to watch the max. volume very closely.

    You picked up 1400W set speakers, which tells me … nothing. Is it 1400W for the set or each speaker. What size are the speakers (generally described as the number of inches of the low frequency speaker diameter, like 12″or 15″)? And Watts aren’t Watts, or rather “not all Watts are created equal”. Especially on low budget gear, marketing dictates that you use the highest variation of Watts you can get away with, typically between two and 4 times the RMS Wattage, which is a regulated quantity and which all serious speaker manufacturers will use. So, it’s very likely that your speakers are either 350Watt each or even 175W each (if the pair is 1400).

    Something else you said makes me wonder about these speakers even more. You say they only have connection for a headphone speaker jack. This is where it really starts to worry me, as I don’t know of any PA speaker that takes that kind of input cord. Not saying it’s not what that is, but I haven’t heard of it.

    Not clear is whether or not you DO want to hook up a DJ controller and if so, which one.

    If we have the following information, we can give you a much better answer to your question:
    * Brand/model of your existing PA speaker set (passive with amp if I read correctly)
    * Brand/model of your new PA speaker set (active, i.e. amp built-in)
    * Brand/model of your DJ controller, if any

    Finally a word about speaker placement. Full range speakers always go to height where the high end speaker (tweeter in hifi terms) is slightly above head height. If you cater to kids, they could be set a bit lower of course to accomodate their height. The only exception is a so-called subwoofer which takes care of the very low frequencies. This type of speaker is optimized for use on the floor and benefits from it. Regular full range speakers will generally become very boomy when on the floor, incur what is called standing-wave problems making them sound bogus, but much more important, the mid high and high tones don’t get to the listeners ears too well and will most likely be soaked up by their bodies.

    So yeah, putting them up is good. I would suggest getting regular height-adjustable speaker stands and buying after market sockets that you can screw on to your existing speakers. From a sound quality aspect this is way better than setting them on “big boxes”.

    There you have it. Hope this helps in some way.

    #2351731
    Kenny Zail
    Participant

    Simply by a small mixer. Mackie 402VLZ4 comes to mind. It is about $100, there are those less expensive around $80. A cord from your speaker jack in the computer to a channel and a cord from your speakers to the mixer output. You will have volume control plus be able to plug in a mic if needed too.

    #2351891
    DJ Vintage
    Moderator

    That still doesn’t solve her problem of wanting to use two sets at the same time. The amp might have balanced input/throughput, then what?

    #2352031
    Katie Faulkner
    Participant

    Thanks for your replies guys!

    -Todd thanks for the laugh ? You go ahead and come up with my DJ name lol just remember I’m a 40+ mom of 4, hopefully a grandmother in the next few years and I’m all about kids including teens!! You have fun with that! Lol

    -Vintage thank you so much for the dB advice!! I will absolutely do that! I really haven’t a clue about the speaker details. I thought they were cool, they got good ratings so I bought them and loved them. Then I bought a bigger set! I could never get them on a tripod/speaker stand they are insanely heavy!

    I’m going to come back and link what I have and a couple of things I came across while searching for the items you’ve suggested.

    Thanks again!

    #2352081
    Katie Faulkner
    Participant

    Ok here is what I have

    Prime

    Passive

    And the same ones at 1000watt with 2-10s

    What it basically comes down too is that I need a dual headphone adapter BUT it diminishes the sound, I’ve had one, computer just can’t push more than one set. I can’t add a sound card to my computer. So thoughts? External Sound Card? (Can’t find one that has dual headphone though only mic and headphone) Audio Interface? (Have no idea what this even really does lol but it looks like it has the ports I need)

    If it’s not possible it’s not possible. But again I haven’t even used the big ones in the studio yet so that may be enough anyway.

    -Vintage, the weight of the prime is 65 lbs. that’s why I was thinking a box to mount them on, for safety of course. So if you think just to use the big ones should I raise them or leave them on the floor?

    I wish I could show off my studio but can’t add in image. Darnit! Lol

    Thanks again guys!!

    #2352101
    Zachary Brasseaux
    Participant

    I would recommend downloading the trial version of virtual dj, which you can use as long as you want (though you can’t use a controller with it) It’s really good if you want to learn basic stuff, beat matching and whatnot.

    Even if you don’t plan on mixing in any way, i recommend it just for playing music, when one song is fading out, you can start the next one. It gives the whole thing a much smoother feel.

    That’s how I started off, just a basic summer camp DJ (which I still do, but with a little more experience), and I just kept learning little tricks to make everything sound better and more fun, and eventually, BAMMM!!! DJ.

    But whatever you do, just have fun with it! Good luck!

    #2352661
    DJ Vintage
    Moderator

    Ok, leave ‘m on the floor. Looks like they were “designed” for that. Frankly, the only thing imho they have going for them is that they are big. Which is nice for the eye, but does nothing for the “size of the sound”.

    I’d have opted for a set of Numark Lightwaves, not too much more expensive, but I am guessing better sound quality, slightly more compact and with all the necessary connectors to make it all work. Pole mounting holes too. And link option to daisy-chain multiple together. And with the rebate action, not too much more money than those Pyle ones.

    But hey.

    It’s all pretty confusing. The main problem is that all connections (including the speaker hookup on the passive ones) are for hifi/home stereo use. There is not one single connector on there that you’d expect on something to be used as a PA.
    Making it VERY hard to hook everything up the way you say you would like. Can it be done? Probably with some experimenting and expecting MacGuyver-like solutions (i.e. all kinds of splitter cables and adapters). Your best bet I think is to just hook up the big active ones and be done with it.

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