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  • November 10, 2015 at 10:40 am #2291561
    Terry_42
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    I would suspect it was not “the toy” as the MC3000 is a professional grade controller. Sound quality on all Denon controllers I can vouch for is top notch and used by many professional DJs daily.

    So I would suspect the problem was in your signal chain.
    Things that can cause the sound to water down:

    The Pioneer Mixers (especially the 800s and lower) sometimes the Line/Phono switch has issues and get stuck on Phono (for turntable use) or actually are reversed (Line is now phono). Of course if you connect a controller to a phono input the sound will suck and be low volume at best.

    Next the 800s and lower have the input RCA soldered to the board inside and not screw tightened. So the inputs may simply be bad.

    The EQ section of the mixer could have been faulty or “stuck”.

    The gain setting on the mixer could have been wrong and the software output was too low. (Signal chain has to be 0db at sound check)

    There are more things that can go wrong, but these are the first that come to mind.

    November 10, 2015 at 12:35 pm #2291591
    DJ Vintage
    Moderator

    +1 on the audio quality of the MC3000. Should NOT be a problem. As far as I know it has the same sound card as the MC6000 (original, not mk2 which now has 24-bit) and I have used that for over 2 1/2 years in a professional setting. While some people argue about 24-bit being the best thing, I have some serious doubt about that. For starters, source material is 16-bit (CD-quality folks!) and “translating” a 16-bit original to a 24-bit output will do nothing (positive) for your sound quality, imho.

    There are truely horrific 16-bit and even 24-bit sound cards around (especially in lower end gear) and some excellent 16-bit sound cards (like the MC3000/6000).

    It is not uncommon for techies to be so opposed to digital music (MP3) and digital DJ-ing that they will at the very least not be very helpful in helping you make your controller sound the best it can.
    Been there and had that happen. Fortunately I am also a licensed live and studio sound engineer and most my knowledge and experience of PA and sound systems in general will be on par or better than the local tech’s. It takes some gentle and polite maneuvering to get them to let me do my own thing.

    But if, like many (starting) DJs, your PA and other gear related skills and knowledge aren’t on that level it can feel pretty overwhelming. And it’s extra stress you don’t need in your early gigs (or any gigs for that matter). Luckily more and more clubs are now welcoming controller DJs and their techies are more than willing and capable to help you set up to sound the best you can.

    November 10, 2015 at 3:19 pm #2291631
    Osver
    Participant

    Thanks you guys for support!

    Now i have to deal with this guy somehow, to let me play next show with my “toy”, and let him connect me right=)

    November 11, 2015 at 9:22 am #2291741
    Terry_42
    Keymaster

    In my experience in 99% of the cases where there are sound issues with controllers, the so called tech does not deserve the name and the only thing he can do is wire CDJs to mixers and hope they work… most Club PAs in such clubs are a mess to begin with and I show up at least 2 hours early to tune the system and shut that guy down.
    Just be confident and tell him that DJs that played for THOUSANDS of people with that toy prove him wrong.

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