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DJ Changeovers on CDJs w/ HID, USB & audio CDs

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  • August 26, 2015 at 8:54 am #2245061
    Terry_42
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    You hit the button on top of one of the CDJs that says “CD” he puts his CD in there, and uses the mixer to cutover as he normal would. After he is done he hits the “CD” button in the second CDJ and he can do it alone and you can disconnect your laptop.

    August 26, 2015 at 6:44 pm #2245251
    Optimus Funk
    Participant

    Thanks for the response!

    May be worth mentioning that the CDJ audio signal would run to the mixer via an SL3 (rather than Serato enabled mixer), so I’m guessing that I would also have to swap RCAs so that I can pack up all my gear in this situation, am I right?

    August 27, 2015 at 5:31 am #2245471
    Ronnie EmJay
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    That sounds like DVS not HID. With HID you can control both Serato decks with 1 CDJ. I’ve seen a friend perform this way. I’ve done the same with Traktor too, and you can go back to back with another DJ in this manner.

    With HID mode, at least in Traktor (and I would presume the same in Serato), the CDJs never need to have audio cables plugged into the sound card, as they are pretty much just controllers like using a Denon MC3000 or Alle & Heath K2 etc. All the sound processing is done internally in the computer and output from your sound card, not the CDJs.

    If you are using DVS, when you are on your final track, plug the unused CDJ directly into the mixer, and the other DJ can queue up his first song. Once he starts playing and you’re out of the mix, connect the other CDJ directly into the mixer, your SL3 should be free to be packed up, and the other DJ can continue using both CDJs.

    August 27, 2015 at 9:01 am #2245551
    Terry_42
    Keymaster

    Exactly. This sounds much more like DVS and not HID. Ronnies solution is best for this.

    August 27, 2015 at 10:43 am #2245581
    Optimus Funk
    Participant

    Thanks for the detail there guys, (especially controlling both decks on one CDJ) that pretty much solves it.

    I see why you thought I was on about DVS… When I was talking about audio routing via the SL3 I meant as in this diagram:
    HID setup w/ Serato box

    As you say, when I’m leaving I’ll just have to make sure to connect the audio cables from the CDJ to the mixer the same as I would if I was leaving the venue after using DVS.

    Thanks again, fellas!

    September 2, 2015 at 11:57 am #2247751
    Ronnie EmJay
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    I always forget that you always need some kind of Serato-certified hardware plugged in to be able to play live, there is no such requirement in Traktor, so apologies for forgetting.

    Another thing that you should be able to do (both Serato and Traktor users using this set-up) is to have the CDJs plugged in with audio cables to the mixer. You will have selected MIDI on the CDJ when controlling your software, and the audio will go through your computer. Any other DJ can just press CD or USB on the CDJ and the audio will go out through the CDJ audio cables in the back into the mixer, using their CDs or USB sticks.

    In this manner, it’s easy to mix back to back this way, if you’re into that sort of thing, just by using the MIDI/CD/USB buttons on the CDJ itself, as well as for doing changeovers. At the end, just unplug the USB cables (if they’re yours), put your channel fader(s) to no sound and unplug your equipment.

    It looks like you are using 2 channels on the mixer, so to do this you would need 4 channels, or to have them plugged in the same channel and switch from line to CD or vice versa… Never plug in CDJs or digital mixing equipment into phono, it sounds bad. Phono is designed for turntables, so having phono/CD means you can only use that channel for either your input or the CDJ and a turntable on the same channel.

    Hope that helps!

    September 3, 2015 at 8:49 am #2248401
    Terry_42
    Keymaster

    Yes to use Traktor you need Traktor certified gear, so the above comment is bogus.
    The DJM 900 Nexus and Nexus players are all also Serato certified and Traktor certified so they work in both worlds.
    You just have to know your gear.

    September 4, 2015 at 3:33 am #2248881
    Ronnie EmJay
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    Yes you’re right I guess CDJs are Traktor certified but I wonder if Serato works if you plug in the CDJs via USB HID, without a Serato soundcard or a controller (the CDJs probably count as controllers?) … probably would?
    I’ve tried controlling Traktor with CDJ 2000 plugged in via USB HID and it works fine 🙂

    September 4, 2015 at 10:05 am #2249101
    Lamid45G
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    Can you just use the CD’s/USB just like the next DJ would ? save the hassle, the headache, plug in plug out, especially you still using the Serato soundcard box

    September 7, 2015 at 9:24 am #2250131
    Terry_42
    Keymaster

    Ronnie if you have the Serato DVS pack installed: Yes they will work without any Serato certified soundcard.

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