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  • June 2, 2015 at 2:23 am #2204331
    bob6397
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    As far as I know there is no way of transferring beat-grid information between different bits of DJ software.. and the time it therefore takes is the only major downside to Digital DJing (or would you rather burn CDs or – even worse – have to pack crates of vinyl every time you had a gig?)

    Is there not a way to just make Traktor/Serato to read thee tags that MIK applies and not re-analyse the bpm itself?

    bob6397

    June 2, 2015 at 7:07 am #2204341
    DJ Vintage
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    I use Cross and I can set what I want the software to analyse (only the beatgrid in my case, BPM and key come from MiK).

    June 3, 2015 at 2:50 pm #2205641
    Landy DLS
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    How do you feel about using a open range for BPM analysis. There is the 60 – 200 range which is in all software: Mixed In Key, Traktor, Serato, etc… How crazy or messy will that be to run this range. I know that different genre use different range for I guess an important reason. Yet some time some song are either over or under that expected range.

    June 3, 2015 at 4:41 pm #2205791
    DJ Vintage
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    I have mine set for 75 to 165 or so. Anything more I won’t play, anything less will have my audience falling asleep.

    The only really important thing to do is a quick check of the highest and lowest BPM tracks. Sometimes 160 BPM tracks are displayed as 80 or the other way around, 75 BPM tracks that are actually 150.

    You want to edit those values.

    June 3, 2015 at 6:17 pm #2205841
    bob6397
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    I have mine set to 60-170. Yes there is some overlap (IE 120 bpm tracks can be counted as if they were 60) but I play from 70-160 as min/max values.. So this lets me have everything set so that I can see if something is slightly out of range..

    I do the same as Vintage though – check every analysis and double/half the ones that it counts wrong.. and re-config the beat map fairly often so that it is on beat 1 when it says it is as well.. 🙂

    bob6397

    June 3, 2015 at 10:33 pm #2206001
    DJ Vintage
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    Yep, probably the only thing that became more time-consuming in digital compared to vinyl/CDs, preparation work 😀

    June 4, 2015 at 2:43 pm #2206681
    Landy DLS
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    So in your guys experience you believe that using the range of 75 – 165 or maybe 60 – 170 it will cover most music genre and there maybe very few which fall on the double or Half BPM adjustment. Ah another question just came to my mind sorry, Lots of music is now tag with the BPM it was suppose to be play at. In traktor or Serato not asking the software to find the BPM would it still give you accurate beat grid. I see no need to redo the BPM if it comes already on the ID tag. Well many Pool site and download site indicate the song BPM but to be honest when they get imported into itunes most of the time the BPM do not show.

    June 4, 2015 at 4:44 pm #2206871
    DJ Vintage
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    As far as I know there is no “BPM as it is supposed to play at”. If a tag is already in there, it just means they provided that information. It’s a valid question. The DJ Software, when using sync, will set both tracks to the same BPM. If the BPM that comes with the track is slightly (and it never should be more than a few hundredths of beat) different from the beatgrid, then while it will start on the appropriate (down)beat, it will run off slightly. I am not sure for every DJ Software if it automatically updates the BPM info to match it beatgrid. But even if it doesn’t, it makes most sense to keep those two linked for syncing purposes.

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