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  • April 13, 2015 at 9:29 pm #2176961
    DJ Plazma
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    Hey Wolf,
    As far as I know Native Instruments cut any existing hardware-partnerships while Serato really works tightly together with the big brands like Pioneer. I believe NI did this to focus on a very tight integration of controllers with their software (and of course to get some more money 😀 ). In all seriousness tough, you could easily use a Serato-branded Pioneercontroller with a corresponding mapping in Traktor. Just dont expect the jogwheels to be perfectly rersponsive if you are some kind of a scratch-DJ.

    April 14, 2015 at 7:57 am #2177261
    Wolf Nightwalker
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    Thanks for the reply!

    Shoot that’s a pity. I dug around but didn’t find anything that might have hinted as much.

    I like the DDJ T1 at the price point but the only thing I dont like is that there are no vu meters on the device. I’m aandalso tending towards Pioneer because of their history and build – a couple of friends have had quality issues with their Kontrols (but then a sample size of two doesn’t make for a good statistics population)

    I was kind of hoping Pioneer might have an update in the wings – but it appears not then. I either bite the bullet and just get one, or duke it out between the S4 and SX.

    April 14, 2015 at 10:28 am #2177471
    Terry_42
    Keymaster

    The T1 is quite dated and actually does not support many current Traktor features as it does not have the right layout.
    The current state of affairs is: If you want Traktor control buy a controller from NI.

    April 16, 2015 at 9:23 am #2178281
    DJ Vintage
    Moderator

    +1 on Traktor with NI gear (and increasingly so in the -near- future).

    Also Serato is no longer partnering with just the “big” names, but with just about anybody 🙂 .

    May 11, 2015 at 11:31 pm #2192361
    Wolf Nightwalker
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    I can’t buy that only NI gear is the best way to go with Traktor – and I didn’t.. purchased me one shiny new DDJ-SX2 from the local store and am very happy. Spent a little time getting to know it – upgraded the firmware, played around in Serato and decided that I do not like it at all and mapped it for Traktor. Works the bomb. Sure – won’t scratch with it but that’s no big issue for the music I mix…

    … and it’s one in the eye for being dictated to as to which controller to use. Choice is king.

    Thanks for all the feedback – appreciated the responses and confirmation re NI and licensing to Pioneer. Who knows they may learn something yet…

    Loving my new SX2 and Traktor…

    May 11, 2015 at 11:46 pm #2192391
    bob6397
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    The main issue with controllers (all of them) nowadays is that increasingly controls are being added to them that are for functions in only one bit of software – this has been the case for a while with Ableton controllers – and whilst you can use controllers with software that they aren’t intended to be used with, they work with the software better if you do.

    A prime example of this would be the Traktor S8 – which has no jogs, and faders on the deck sections specifically designed to work with remix decks and (eventually) the new stems format that they are bringing out.

    On the other side, I don’t see any Traktor hardware supporting the “Flip” effect in Serato any time soon… 🙂

    And an additional advantage is that everything is plug and play when you use hardware with spftware it has been designed for – the mappings are built in.

    That’s why we say choose you software THEN controller to all the beginners.. It makes more sense in the current market.

    bob6397

    May 12, 2015 at 7:07 am #2192501
    DJ Vintage
    Moderator

    Glad you made a choice that brings you happiness.

    We don’t say it won’t work, but we do say that the integration is less than optimal and we’ll stick with that. With an expected big (3.0) upgrade of the software around the corner (so everyone and his mother seems to think) and Traktor’s move towards supporting only their own gear there is just a real chance that your current non-NI controller won’t work all that well with the next version of the software and you have a manufacturer that will not be committing manpower to making it work properly.

    So, if you don’t mind jogs that aren’t integrated as well as they can be (I like mine to be responsive, even if I don’t scratch. Coming from vinyl, I want a movement of the hand to reflect something in my headphones) and you are willing to take the risk that one or more future features won’t be all that well supported (like the stems thing Bob mentioned), then you picked well. At the end of the day it’s a good controller, so no discussion there.

    Keep us posted. Love to hear from you after playing out with it for a while.

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