Home 2023 Forums Digital DJ Gear Reloop Terminal 8 VS VCI-400 VS Suggestions?

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    Terry_42
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    Well here is some first hand experience:
    I have been using the Terminal Mix 8 with Serato DJ for about half a year now live. Yes it has (in my opinion) the best jogwheels for scratching of any controller, even those twice the price. The sound quality is excellent (but this is the case with most controllers above 500 bucks) and the pads are very good. It is all metal so I had no issues there and the booth output is very nice.
    It actually has an AUX input where I connect my iPad or mp3 player as backup.
    Before the Terminal Mix 8 I have used the Terminal Mix 4 for 2 years until upgrading, so I am very satisfied with reloop build quality.

    VCI-400
    Thanks to Mike from Vestax I had the chance to extensively test the VCI-400 at Musikmesse in Frankfurt. Yes the layout at first is more intimidating than the TM8, but the controller is more of a jack of all trades. It plays nicely with all Softwares for DJs, it has a good sound quality and has a standalone mixer function. However it felt much more cramped to me, but I guess you can get used to it. The jogwheels are quite nice and are good for scratching. They look nicer than the TM8 due to the LEDs, but handling wise I find the TM8s a tad better. Also the different performance pad modes came easier to me on the TM8s layout than the VCI 400, however it can be more versatile for sure. Build quality is again awesome full metal and Vestax is known for good sound quality also.

    So if you want best scratch performance and ease of use I would prefer the TM8, if you want a tad more versatility and use different softwares then VCI 400.

    As for software: Now if you are serious about scratching I would strongly recommend going for Serato.

    #2057792
    Isaiah Furrow
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    I can give no input on the Vestax gear, as I’ve never used it or even seen it in person. I can however say that the TM8 is NICE! I haven’t used mine a great deal yet, but I would say that build quality and sound quality are good. Volume level is plenty loud, mic sounds good. Buttons, knobs, faders, etc… all feel sturdy and well built. The Aux input works great either through the software or straight through, although I did notice a lower volume when not routing it through the SW. There was plenty of volume left on the knob to bring it up to the proper level though, and it sounded good either way. Keep us posted.

    #2058031

    I have a Reloop Terminal Mix 4, a toned down TM8 with buttons instead of pads and not as good an I/O or soundcard. I must say that soundcards don’t really matter. 90% of the market have decent sound cards and those who dont you’ll see reviews complaining. The jogs from the TM4 are shared with the TM8 and I must say they are sublime. So big and weighted its so good. I’m not too sure on this one but I’m assuming the crossfader and line faders are shared as well and they both feel top notch. Crossfader is so loose compared to other controllers or mixers and the line faders heel pretty high quality. I’ll admit that I would LOVE pads. The buttons are only really good for cue points and drum loops, not much else, they are particularly hard to use for sampling or cue sampling. I’m a cheap ass as well, so I picked my TM4 up for $400AUD which was my limit, still down from the $650AUD RRP but given a bigger budget I would have loved a TM8. I must say W8 does not affect your DJing at all. Some softwares might have stability issues but almost all have fixed it by now. The hardware does not matter which OS you use as all the hardware stuff is pretty much carryover from W7. And as a final note, check out Cross DJ. It’s my favourite software and my only choice so far.

    Good luck!

    #2067271
    sara.mork@live.com
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    Someone please slap me, I have new gear giddyness!

    In the end, I’ve gotten the VCI-400! It seemed like the more versatile option, which is what I think is important. Yes, the Reloop TM 8 may have been better in terms of jog-wheel size, but in terms of what I could do with it eventually, the options seemed very limited. I really liked the stand-alone mixer option in the Vestax, although that is something I’d have to program into the controller down the road.

    As for software, I am really having a hard time on figuring it out. I’ll try both Virtual DJ LE and Serato Intro for now as they came bundled with the controller, however I will bring my butt to give Traktor a try. Q-Bert actually made a pretty interesting review- virtually there is no difference in sound quality HOWEVER there are some issues in regards to vinyl-controllers. You can click to check it out.

    @tosatto.michael: I’ll definitely give Cross DJ a look, but of course I’ll have to ask why you recommend it? 🙂 As for weight, I really appreciate portability. Got no car.

    I’m really excited to piss off my neighbors with tha-dump-da-dumps! <3

    #2067351
    Terry_42
    Keymaster

    Nice. You should consider upgrading to full Serato DJ it is way beyond Intro.

    #2068022
    Isaiah Furrow
    Participant

    I’d second the full Serato DJ advice…. but I did thoroughly enjoy Intro for about a year, so I’m sure you’ll have time to sew up the hole in your pocket first… 🙂 Keep us posted on how the Vestax works out for you…

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