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  • May 23, 2014 at 5:05 pm #2033444
    Paul
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    I forgot to say that the track kicks back in when you think it shouldn’t. If you get what i mean??????

    May 23, 2014 at 5:18 pm #2033451
    DJ Vintage
    Moderator

    I haven’t used Traktor in a while yet, but as far as I know, Traktor still doesn’t offer a solution for flexible beatgridding. What you describe as being number two just sounds like a hot cue, not a beatmarker.

    You can change the beatmarker for the first downbeat and you can change the bpm if Traktor’s analysis gets it wrong. But as far as I know there is no way to fix what you want fixed.

    Perhaps someone else can shine a light on this that I have missed?

    Greetinx.

    May 23, 2014 at 5:24 pm #2033452
    Paul
    Participant

    Its defo not a hot cue, it’s grid marker (Number 2. i just checked)

    I did mess with the BPM but it didn’t work though out the track

    May 23, 2014 at 5:42 pm #2033463
    DJ Vintage
    Moderator

    As far as I understand, the bpm stays the same throughout the track. Extra beatmarkers just set another downbeat if I am not mistaken.

    Again, I don’t Traktor supports various beatgrids within one track. It’s one of the reasons I moved to Mixvibes Cross.

    Greetinx.

    May 23, 2014 at 6:10 pm #2033468
    Robert Murray
    Participant

    Paul

    I’ve checked that file for you in Traktor – it has a very slight varying beatgrid.
    Traktor cannot beatgrid that for you perfectly.

    You have a few options:

    1. Forget beatgriding it and mix in and out manually.
    2. Set the beat grid perfectly at the begining so you can mix in using sync then manually mix out.
    3. Set the beat grid at the end of the tune (after the break) so the outro is perfectly beatgrid – then manually mix in and use sync out.
    4. Forget this tune and move on – you will find this issue in 1 in every 50-100 tunes.

    Hope that helps.

    May 23, 2014 at 6:33 pm #2033469
    Paul
    Participant

    Ok thanks. But I’m still confused. The beatgrid is fine up till the downbeat kicks back in after the build up. It seem to me the reason it’s out is because the position of the downbeat has changed? So I added a 2nd beatmarker and it’s lined the grid up for the remaining part of the track.

    Am I making sense?

    May 23, 2014 at 8:13 pm #2033487
    DJ Vintage
    Moderator

    Are you sure the downbeat has changed. Not uncommon for musical parts to kick in 1 or even 2 beats before the first downbeat. The fact that the music or vocal starts again doesn’t necessarily mean it’s the new downbeat.

    Let’s face it, Traktor is good at tight, electronic music with a constant beat throughout. Changing bpm’s and such it can’t handle well.

    If you plan on having much music like this, you might consider Serato or Mixvibes Cross, both of which have excellent flex gridding.

    What was the reason to decide to use Traktor? The choice for software should, imho, follow the workflow you want and need. Just curious what led to picking Traktor.

    Greetinx.

    May 23, 2014 at 8:35 pm #2033489
    Paul
    Participant

    I don’t know enough but Traktor or Serato. I chose Traktor as i have an IDJ Pro and i new it had been mapped, I just can’t afford a new controller.

    All my music is new Trance from Juno. I know there will be the odd track thats an issue and I’m fine with that as i have taken the time to beatmatch by ear.

    Even this track doesnt seem to be a problem, i just wanted to see if i was doing it right. For what ever the reason, this tracks beatgrid drifts only after the build up. When the first beat kicks back in, i have placed another beat marker and it has corrected the remaining part of the track so i guess, all is good?!

    May 23, 2014 at 8:39 pm #2033490
    DJ Vintage
    Moderator

    Sounds about right

    May 23, 2014 at 8:46 pm #2033492
    Paul
    Participant

    What do you mean?

    May 23, 2014 at 9:00 pm #2033495
    DJ Vintage
    Moderator

    so i guess, all is good?!

    Yes, that sounds about right 😛

    May 23, 2014 at 9:59 pm #2033502
    Terry_42
    Keymaster

    As I have that track also I checked it in Traktor and Serato.
    Yes the beat on this track does change after the breakdown as the 1 bar after the break is not exact.
    Traktor cannot handle such a thing and even in Serato I had to make a downbeat marker to make it work (however it does work in Serato).

    This is just one thing Traktor currently cannot do as flexible beatgridding is not supported and this is something you have to live with in such tunes.

    May 23, 2014 at 10:09 pm #2033505
    Paul
    Participant

    So me adding the 2nd beat marker was the right thing to do to make this work?

    May 23, 2014 at 10:19 pm #2033509
    Paul
    Participant

    I meant. I placed a 2nd beatmarker at this point and it corrected the grid for the remaining part of the track. Everyone is saying Traktor can’t do this so am i missing something here?

    Can i upload a screen shot?

    May 24, 2014 at 8:15 pm #2033674
    Paul
    Participant

    Adding the second beat marker resets the phase from that point onwards so for this track it works 🙂

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