When Are You A DJ?
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February 17, 2012 at 6:12 pm #15154
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ParticipantInteresting question that. IMHO, I would say the day you start playing one record after another, irrespective of audience or not. It is a bit of chicken and egg situation because in order tout for gigs you have to give the impression you are a DJ, however if the criteria is first gig/party; mine was a birthday party in 1995, but the real move for me was at University when I used to blag gigs here and there before starting my own nights, this led to a couple of residencies further down the line.
February 17, 2012 at 9:41 pm #15166Todd Oddity
Participantgbadegesin, post: 15200, member: 1507 wrote: For the old timers, when was the time that you felt ‘Oh Yeah!’ , now i am an acomplished DJ
I remember this moment perfectly and always will.
A little background:
A bunch of club dj’s used to meet at Denny’s after our Saturday shifts and compare notes about the night, what music worked, what the crowds were like, and to just generally make fun of each other’s clubs for being dirty dives full of skanky people… You know, typical dj trash-talk.
Most of these guys were also your typical “I am SO the man cause I’m a DJ” kinda guys – certainly no issues with self-confidence with this group. On the other hand, I tended to be a little less in your face about my nights. They were doing well and I didn’t feel compelled to brag. Because of this, I tended to get ragged on the most by the guys – because I’d just smile and take it…
Now for the actual story:
So we’re all sitting down having a meal and three ridiculously hot girls come over at sit at the table with the group. They knew one of the guys and came over to say hi. He proceeds to introduce the table to them, but instead of “this is Rob, and Colin, and Todd” he does the whole “this is D’Eros from Liquor Dome, and Lazz from The Other Side, and Oddity from…” That’s where they cut him off and turned to me. “Wait, you’re dj Oddity from On Tap?” I just smiled. “Oh my god, we love you so much – we come every week with all our friends and… blah, blah, blah…” Then went on like this for the next five minutes. The rest of the guys looked shell-shocked afterwards.
And that’s when it was official. They may have all talked the talk, but I was the king. And I just smiled and took it.February 18, 2012 at 4:35 am #15175Dayvue
MemberYou’re a DJ when you get paid dat cash munny to play music in public!
February 18, 2012 at 8:54 am #15179LoveLand
MemberHmmm Dayvue, just getting paid to DJ in public, well, that just makes you a paid DJ. Nothing special.
I concur with the first comment to a certain degree, but just playing two songs after each other doesn’t make you a DJ per se’. You could, in effect teach a two year old to simply ‘play’ two tunes one after the other. For me, my moment is when I started to purposefully SELECT and put two tunes together. Fundamentally that’s what we do and what differentiates us from the audience we play to, even if it’s just the cat. You pick a song for a number of particular, but specific reasons and then choose the next track for the same or a slightly different set of reasons, and play it. The fleshy part of DJing such as beatmatching, hardware format, marketing gimmickery, and all that bollocks doesn’t take away from the fundamental of what a DJ does, just enhances the listener experience and allows for creativity to be expressed.
So, bestow that title unto yourself dude.
LLFebruary 19, 2012 at 3:00 am #15200dj flyer
MemberWhen you got regular gigs that you get paid for. You´re not a carpenter just because you made some homeimprovements 😉
February 19, 2012 at 10:59 pm #15228Bigicedog
Participanti think once you have the basic skills (beatmatching,scratching,mixing,blening,etc) you can call yourself a dj when you get paid to do a gig you are a “professional” dj (in the sense a professional gets paid to do what they do) but its a combination of both AND how you carry yourself,and how you react to any given situation. i got my first dj set up in 82 at the age of 9 it wasnt until i obtained the skills that i called myself a dj. but even if you are a professional it is a never ending process. there is always more to learn and you can always get better. once you are able to be called a dj undisputedly, the job is not done. just my 2 cents
February 20, 2012 at 5:48 pm #1003045Deathray
MemberYou are a DJ as soon as you’ve played in front of a full room at a party or a club and everyone is dancing/toe tapping/nodding along…… everything else is just DJing/Mixing.
February 20, 2012 at 7:15 pm #15295LoveLand
MemberSo how do you hustle your first gig ? ‘excuse me mr club manager, i’m not a real dj (awkward laugh) because i haven’t been paid as yet, but if you give me a go and just give me ten quid, i’ll then be able to call myself a dj” …
or, someone who has thousands of listeners across the globe thru an internet radio station but just because he/she doesnt have people in a ”room toe tapping” oh he is not a dj…
ok, that makes total sense. I love sound reasoning like that.
February 20, 2012 at 7:21 pm #1003046DJspin
MemberWhen you spend thousands of dollars on gear & equipment, play bad music, use the Sync button and put DJ along with your name. Yeah, thats about it.
February 20, 2012 at 9:20 pm #15302Deathray
MemberLoveLand, post: 15367, member: 1225 wrote: So how do you hustle your first gig ? ‘excuse me mr club manager, i’m not a real dj (awkward laugh) because i haven’t been paid as yet, but if you give me a go and just give me ten quid, i’ll then be able to call myself a dj” …
or, someone who has thousands of listeners across the globe thru an internet radio station but just because he/she doesnt have people in a ”room toe tapping” oh he is not a dj…
ok, that makes total sense. I love sound reasoning like that.
You do have a valid argument regarding radio DJ’s, I did not consider that at all and I am stumped regarding how to tackle that one. I do think that DJing/Presenting on the wireless is slightly more advanced with regards to presentation so perhaps you could instantly call your self a DJ just by having the Balls to do it.
I still believe that Bedroom DJ’s are Bedroom DJ’s and that you become a DJ when can play out to a approving audience. DJ’s are performers, performing to yourself is practicing…. and you practice so you can do the real thing out there in front of people. And by doing the real thing over you perfect your style and track selection and everything else too until everything just ‘clicks’ and you have that DJ moment where everybody’s moving and the room is pumped…….
THATS WHEN YOU BECOME A DJ!!(in my opinion)
February 20, 2012 at 9:26 pm #15304Sumir
MemberI like to call myself Papa Smurf, it’s a fun title, far less competition too
February 20, 2012 at 10:53 pm #15311DJspin
MemberWell I think of it as this, everyone can mix, everyone can call themselves DJs. I could buy my gear and call myself a DJ. The question should be: When are you a REAL DJ? or a GOOD DJ?. It’s simple, the challenge about mixing is beatmatching, and with the Sync button that challenge has been lost mostly, when you learn to beatmatch all you are left with is your gear, your music and your creativity, from there on you could be called a DJ.
February 21, 2012 at 12:12 am #15315LoveLand
Memberwhat about DJ’s who cant beatmatch f0r shit, but are making loads of wonga ?
February 21, 2012 at 12:28 am #15318Sumir
MemberI have not earned a wonga, in any job I’ve done. From Djing to retail, to security..nope. no wongas
February 21, 2012 at 12:55 am #15321DJspin
MemberI know of no one who can’t beatmatch and is making some noise, well I do, although If there is such person, he’s probably someone that plays pure bangers and commercial crap that makes the people go crazy, so people don’t pay attention to the mixing per say. That gets no merit at all, that is what iPods and playlists are for. For example: I live in Venezuela and over here there is a really famous DJ called Oscar Leal, facebook him or something. He has a lot of popularity and is known for being great at mixing, when I first went to a HUGE party where he was going, I realized that he plays BANGERSS and tears the party up. When I decided to pay attention, He’s transitions and beatmatching are in the sh*tter. That guy can’t mix, and I thought to myself why not play a freaking iPod instead of paying a ton of money to hire him.
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