Harmonic Mixing: Is It a Must?
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January 12, 2014 at 10:35 pm #1025114
DJ Vintage
ModeratorTwo parts to this question I think. One of a general nature, the other a bit more specific.
On a general note, I think it’s safe to say that two songs that are harmonically compatible will usually sound good together. This doesn’t mean the opposite is also true, i.e. if two songs are not harmonically compatible they will sound bad together. So you can mix stuff that you think sounds good, regardless of what key it was in. Actually, the first key lists I saw where back in like 84 or so. The tricky part was that you’d need to take records with exactly the same bpm to make it work, because as soon as you changed the pitch, the key would be off. Since the days of pro-grade DJ-players we have key lock and that is no longer a problem.
More specifically: going from Fmajor to Gmajor (translated to camelot 7B to 9B) is totally feasible. It will give a “mood jump” of sorts or an energy jump. Going to Dmajore would be stretching it a bit usually, but … nothing is set in stone. So if it sounds good to your trained ears, I am sure the audience won’t have a problem with it.
Harmonic mixing is not a law, not even a rule. Merely a handy tool to help put together a pleasant sounding set. Quite frankly a perfect harmonic set, mixed flawlessly can easily sound a tad boring too.
Sometimes you got to keep the crowd awake and on their toes.
Greetinx.
January 13, 2014 at 3:07 am #1025153Lamid45G
ParticipantIf you selected you song just based on harmonic one and only, you missing out the great fun and freedom of a DJ, we an artist/painter (or w/e), so we paint based on our natural beast instinct, if one color doesnt match the other, the question is how we can make it work ?
Harmonic mixing is simply just a tool, just a guide, sometimes when we look at it, ow no it doesnt match, ok how about this or that, and sometimes ow no it doesnt match, well most of time we said Screw it! lol
January 13, 2014 at 9:55 am #1025199Terry_42
KeymasterI think Chuck covered it nicely. It is not a must, but it is good for a DJ to know what will work and what not. Also a lot depends on the transition, if I do one of my F/X transitions possibly even with some samples and heavy filtering… it wont matter anyways as it is not a blend, but a harder transition.
January 13, 2014 at 10:49 am #1025206rustboro .
ParticipantThank you so much for what you guys have said! You’ve been really helpful. I’ll make sure to remember the tips you guys have shared!
January 14, 2014 at 6:29 pm #1025414Alex Moschopoulos
ParticipantI’ve never taken much stock in harmonic mixing.
I usually listen and just see “if they sound nice together”.
January 14, 2014 at 8:59 pm #1025449DJ Vintage
ModeratorIt’s what most of us have done for most of our “careers”. I have to admit that I have found some unlikely tracks to mix using harmonic key as another selection criterium though.
Greetinx.
January 14, 2014 at 9:52 pm #1025460Daryl Northrop
ParticipantHarmonic mixing is great if you have two songs that you are mixing together while lots of instruments/keyboards are playing. If you are just mixing together the two tracks while drums are playing – it’s not so important.
Again, like the other posts have said, your ear should be the final answer on whether or not a mix sounds good or not.
January 15, 2014 at 9:44 am #1025517DJ Vintage
ModeratorIn mixvibes Cross, you can manipulate the key, it’s also got a key sync button. It makes for some interesting experimenting.
Now you can easily alter the key with the bpm staying equal.
January 16, 2014 at 8:25 am #1025629Terry_42
KeymasterYeah you can make Miley Cyrus sound like a mix of Darth Vader and Vin Diesel… sorry I love Cross but that feature is not one I am particularly fond of…
January 16, 2014 at 1:40 pm #1025653DJ Vintage
ModeratorHey, I tried that 45/33 rpm trick with Dolly Parton’s “Jolene” that someone posted way back (and that made it sound like a guy singing it, but obviously at the wrong speed) and it came out pretty cool. Suddenly there is an unknown guy singing this song in exact the same tempo as the original!
Obviously just like you don’t want to do 15 bpm difference beatmatches, you don’t want to go overboard. But the ability to move something 2 or 3 semitones could prove helpful at times, if only as an FX.
Greetinx.
January 25, 2014 at 3:33 pm #1026865Klaus Mogensen
ParticipantIn short: No
It’s a nice add-on when it’s possible, but way down the list for me compared to choosing the right tune, making good transitions and so on
/Klaus
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