Which Software w/ Numark Mixtrack (Non-Pro)?

VDJ Pro should only be around $200 as you get a discount on upgrading… Personally I think VDJ has more “potential” but traktor is better out of the box. Time will tell if VDJ8 lives up to expectations but having read the beta forums from the start of the year I am confident it will put traktor and serato to shame in terms of what it can do, the problem is that to take ideas and make them bug free realities takes time so we will have to wait and see when it’s released.

If you choose vdj just understand that you will need a little knowlege of mapping if you want to reap the full benifit vdj offers. It should be much easier to set up in version 8 however as shown in the teaser video on the blog earlier in the year.

I disagree… the loops are the same, cues not only have more options but you have 99 of them Vs traktors 8, grids are grids they both do the same thing and both get the start position wrong on modern bass music, this is because the bass drum is quieter and higher in frequency than traditional productions and to compensate the snare is louder and lower hence the software confuses the two… so with any of them you need to correct this, vdj makes it easy allowing you to jump the cbg in quantized steps of freely move it just like traktor using it’s own popout window or vdjscript.

the interface while cheap looking is far from messy, if anything it is sparse… but you can use and customize skins in vdj… this is mine I’m making for going to release for VDJ8, but still waiting to see what new features we will get, but in VDJ7 all of this works as well as being able to independently color the cue point buttons… although at almost 30,000 lines of code it’s best to wait until I know what features will be skinable in version 8.

I should mention regarding the colors the contrast isn’t as high, it just compounds when you shrink the image

My point is that it’s the stigma associated with vdj that stops people from unlocking it’s true potential, but company’s promoting traktor is good for business as you need computer skills to modify anything… Personally I think traktor is much more suited to noobs and vdj is for people that want to really shape their “workflow” ableton style but with the transport ease of dj software. Saying that traktor “just works” is not a valid argument in the world of controllerism as the idea is you push the boundaries of what’s possible with traditional methods of djing… traktor can’t natively do this, you have to introduce third party software to do it so as said it’s closed to computer nerds who understand what they are doing, and the lay user has to rely on their generosity to get these features… vdj doesn’t have this problem as anyone with a couple of days of learning can get a good grasp of vdjscript and start customizing their “workflow”

finally on “workflow” in vdj you have pannels in skins to show or hide features, my skin has about 300 of them, but djdecks takes that one step further and allows dockable floating pannels, so you can reshape your interface like what has been displayed in “the one” all it takes is someone skinning it and i will certainly start trying when I finally get my hands on the beta release so it’s ready for version 8 as close to the public release day as possible.

And can I ask if you personally have mapped anything complex in traktor or vdj? I have done it in both and vdj is much easier and more powerful, there is literally nothing that djtt have released that I cant make vdj do, but the same can’t be said in reverse, there is a lot that djtt have released that you simply cant replicate in traktor without their firmware or middleware like zestoi’s midimasher app/bomes etc…

I also don’t buy that more functions is a negative at all, it just means you have more control… using it I made vdj do this
http://www.virtualdj.com/homepage/synthet1c/blogs/4680/Icon_Idj_Pocket_Controllerist_Manual.html

Well I am too using whatever is the best tool for the occasion. I am actually currently testing Traktor 2.5 with my Terminal Mix…
synthet1c IS a VDJ god 😛 There are few people outside VDJ developers, that know as much about it as synthet1c does. If I need advice about VDJ I ask him and I actually would use VDJ full time if VSTs would work on Macs, because of how I was able to set it up through his tips.

Now I am not dissing any DJs using Traktor or any other software, as I prolly use it too. However being a bit obsessed with tools is actually what it takes sometimes… Look at Ean Golden and his team. Now I think it is marvelous what they hack into their midi fighters and the midi fighter 3d hack for Traktor remix decks is totally awesome by the looks of it. But it is totally the same obsession, just for Traktor. AND I think they have a harder time than synthet1c as they have to actually hack the software/firmware, whereas in VDJ you can do it out of the box.

Look at other DJs like Deadmau5 or Skrillex. They are obsessed with their tools too, just look at how Skrillex has modified his Ableton and his gear and buttons… Obsession with tools surely can go very far, sometimes it leads to success and sometimes not.

I would not call any user noob and maybe it was a little emotional on both of your sides… I know enough Noobs using any of the big softwares… just as I know enough Pros that use any of the big softwares. Be open minded and do not dis anyone.

Terry_42, post: 22100, member: 1843 wrote: synthet1c IS a VDJ god :p

VDJ is “technically” far superior… And I am superior to you and your feeble little mind, now bow before me minion…

Haha I couldn’t resist, read into it what you will but it doesn’t change the fact that your a douchebag.

hahaha I love you man 😉 superior answer…