A way to show grouping field in Traktor?

From what I am gathering, it looks like Traktor doesn’t have the grouping field; only Serato.

So I might have to just use the comments field.

If I’m wrong, though, I’d love a second opinion.

That’s a good point, Phil. I was ultimately trying to get it to write the camelot code and the actual key into a field other than comments, so that I could use the comments field to tag the tracks when mixing from Traktor.

I just noticed that there was the ‘comments 2’ box within Traktor. Apparently it is not read from anything other than Traktor.

I can edit the tags using RE3 to show the key in camelot code, and then I have to write the actual key in the comments field. RE3 does write both camelot code and actual key to the grouping field, but that field is useless in Traktor.

So I guess I cannot have my cake and eat it too in this situation w/o using the comments 2 field to show either the actual key or my notations.

Given that the grouping field, I believe, is viewable via Itunes, perhaps I should just use comment2 window for actual key in Traktor and be done with.

I was also somewhat concerned that Traktor would overwrite my tag info using 2.4, and would not be viewable in Windows 7, but thus far (fingers crossed), there has not been an issue. I see it in my folders in my HDD, and when analyzing it with mp3 tag software, it shows that it is using 2.3.

As always, I appreciate your personal replies.

Keep up the good work.

Regards,

BB

Michael Lawrence, post: 19293, member: 856 wrote: Im not sure about Re# but I used mixe din Key and there is an option to automaticallu update the keys in front of any comments you may already have existing in the comment field. Not sure if there is something similar that you can do but I this works great for me.

Thanks, Michael.

I had briefly considered Mixed In Key, but RE3 basically does the same thing for free, without the suggestions on what might go together.

It is a great free piece of software. If Mixed In Key allows this, it might be something to consider.

The problem i have right now is that Traktor overwrites my ID3 tags completely whenever I add a comment to either the comment1 or 2 field. Which basically means I have to start over and spend hours re-tagging the bloody things.

Apparently this is a common issue with Traktor. Why they won’t fix it, I have no idea.

Thanks for your tip, though. Very helpful for future consideration.

Hee Won Jung, post: 19396, member: 948 wrote: Use the Comments2 for ur personal comments and keep Comments 1 for your key tagging.

It sounds a little retarded but i use Keyfinder, MediaMonkey, MP3Gain and Itunes before my music even Hits Traktor

MP3Gain first to normalize my tracks that seem quite
Then Keyfinder to Set key in comments Field with Camelot Wheel and Actual Note Signature

Keyfinder to write key into Comments field with camelot wheel and actual note signature

I use MM to tag all my stuff properly, Genre is for what the Main genre of the song is IE Electro, then i use the grouping to define the song, Swing, Funky, Bigroom, Banging, Synths, Vocal, Top40, ClubCheese etc.

I then upload all my properly tagged MP3s into Itunes and have all my smart playlists setup so i have like 14 playlists that are all Electro Genre, but then sorted by subgroup based on grouping.
The smart playlists are great because it auto adds songs that you have set based on certian fields.

Then I just go into Traktor and goto my itunes library and add to collection.

Then within Traktor i will start actually building my sets that i am playing that week.

Thanks for the tips. I made the mistake of not involivng Itunes and RE3 before hitting Traktor.

My thought process is very similar to yours. I figured, okay, it doesn’t like me putting in comments in the ‘1’ field. Fine. I’ll simply let RE3 do its thing in ‘1’ and then I’ll add a comment to the ‘2’ field.

WRONG. Traktor over-wrote everything and I had to spend hours starting over again. Now, whenever I have tried to put anything into the comments 1 or 2 field, it has automatically overwritten ALL of my ID3 tag information. I’m left with the most basic of tags.

Not cool.

I checked the NI forums, and this is a common issue. The forum dwellers suggest setting up a user account on Windows that does not allow Traktor to overwrite/make changes to files without administrative permission.

Here’s the forum that addresses it, and a site that supposedly shows how to fix it. I have not tried it yet, because I have not had time to test it.

For now, when I have time to mix, I am doing so without Traktor.

http://www.native-instruments.com/forum/showthread.php?t=115804&page=3

Supposed fix:

http://www.marthijnvandenheuvel.com/2010/10/11/how-to-stop-traktor-from-editing-id3-tags/