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June 29, 2011 at 8:02 pm #1731
D-Jam
Participanti think it’s all become stagnant. I’ve been working on an article about this. I’ll let you know when it’s posted.
June 29, 2011 at 8:17 pm #1733Liambo
MemberI know what your trying to say, its coming to a point where i will not buy any tracks online now or any music in that case unless its white labels because a lot of the music sounds the same and just doesn’t interest me.
It’s ashame to be honest.
June 29, 2011 at 8:20 pm #1736Phil Morse
KeymasterI think the trick is to look in different places for your music.
June 29, 2011 at 8:38 pm #1000627Liambo
MemberPhil Morse, post: 1725 wrote: I think the trick is to look in different places for your music.
I totally agree with this, try hunting through free music blogs and stuff or paid music blogs and soundclouds/mixclouds etc etc.. white label records online if your a vinyl junkie. All examples.
June 29, 2011 at 8:42 pm #1000630Rob Francis
MemberThis is why it’s challenging for music producers to stand out. I write my own stuff but find it hard to sound original. As for DJing, like Phil says you have to dig deeper. I’ve been through a few dry patches where I just couldn’t find anything good, but eventually I hit upon something I haven’t found before.
June 29, 2011 at 10:08 pm #1000634D-Jam
ParticipantPhil Morse, post: 1725 wrote: I think the trick is to look in different places for your music.
I wholeheartedly agree.
I also think DJs should not try to post a new mix every week. Take the time and seek out new stuff. Play multiple genres so you can amass a great playlist for each new mix. I just made a tech house mix and posted it today, but it’ll probably be a month or two before I even post another one. In the meantime I have music aside for some different old school mixes, a trance mix, and a deep house mix.
The big one is to learn scarcity. Just because you have access to 1000 new tunes doesn’t mean you should get them. Imagine you get locked in the record store in days of yesteryear. Now you can think you have all the music in the world at your feet, thus you go crazy. Imagine the store opens and you can only leave with 5-10 records purchased. Think of it like that with online shopping. Add 100 new tracks to your wishlist, then whittle it down to 10. Buy things you just love and/or would play for months…not play a few times and move on.
June 30, 2011 at 12:09 am #1792Adam Sharizman
ParticipantD-Jam, post: 1744 wrote: I wholeheartedly agree.
Add 100 new tracks to your wishlist, then whittle it down to 10. Buy things you just love and/or would play for months…not play a few times and move on.
Well, the one thing that make vinyl very appealing to me is that you can actually touch, hold and see your records. it makes records very unique especially if you own a hard to find song. But that’s just me though. I don’t see a way to set cue points and whatnot on vinyl though.
June 30, 2011 at 9:06 am #1000678Phil Morse
KeymasterAlso, I believe it helps to let someone else do the finding for you. Find a few DJs whose taste you really admire – selectors as opposed to club DJs. I’m talking people who have radio shows. Don’t worry that their overall output isn’t what you’d play in a DJ set – that’s the whole point. If you assemble a few radio shows (Mixcloud is good plus of course podcasts) of people who spend a lot of time sifting through music before choosing each week’s hour or whatever, you’re bound to find a few records each week that have that extra “something” you’re looking for.
June 30, 2011 at 11:59 am #1969D-Jam
ParticipantAdam, I hear what you mean, but despite that I came up on vinyl, I never really got that “you can touch it” hormonal rush others get. Usually when I listen to a piece of music that I got that rush. That’s just me…and why it never mattered to me if it was MP3 or wax.
I just think if DJs want to really get past the “there’s way too much music out there” problem, they should push to build a scarcity in their lives. Like I said, whittle a list of 100 tracks down to 10 and then you find out what you really like and what was “ok”.
Phil…your suggestions are right on point. If one is stuck in the “there’s way too much crap being released” problem, then it’s ideal to find good sources to tap on and let them do the looking for you.
June 30, 2011 at 4:17 pm #2025Jem
MemberI would also like to expand on my original comment about genres:
I fully believe that because of the pigeonholing of dance music, it becomes expected that if you are going to make an acid skiffle funk track or whatever you will use x, y and z sounds, which will be familiar and therefore appeal to the buyer of that genre. I’ve found myself doing it – you listen to a track and like it, then realise that the reason you like the snippet you heard was because the elements were familiar. Actually, the records that have had the most longevity with me are often the ones that took a while to grow on me – probably they were unfamiliar elements but ultimately their originality leads to them remaining in the record box far longer than last weeks generic deep house buys.
I remember when House music first exploded in this country and the clubs that were playing this stuff would play all sorts – you would hear Detroit techno next to Italo pianos next to The Stone Roses next to all sorts of stuff – we didn’t know the genres back then, it was all just House music.
June 30, 2011 at 4:31 pm #2027Phil Morse
Keymaster@jem – agreed, also too many people think they have to play in a certain way, or from certain labels, or a certain sound, or only this type of bassline, or only this type of kick etc – that’s so limiting, after all it’s all music! The audience isn’t really listening that closely. In fact, they’re probably tuning it all out by default as they’re starting from a state of bored stupor. So we should really play what the hell we like and jolt them back into paying attention.
June 30, 2011 at 5:07 pm #2032D-Jam
ParticipantDerrick May is probably the biggest proponent against the over-classification of music. In several interviews he’s gone off on how people seem to want to make a unique term for every kind of sound.
I agree with him when it came down to the subgenres that I’d see some people pushing as if it was their own “new thing”. I can see when you want to differentiate house from trance and those two sounds differentiated from jungle…but when I see variations of one sound being handed all these subgenre names, it’s ridiculous.
In the old days, DJs played across the board. House, pop, freestyle, rap, new wave, italo, industrial, whatever…as long as it had that beat, sounded good, and worked in the set…they would play it.
June 30, 2011 at 5:58 pm #2035Jona Menasso
MemberHi everyone
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In my opinion Derryck May is right… there are too many sub-genres.
You can see that when (nowadays) you can say that x track is techno for sure… but then you cant realy be sure if it is “pure techno” or if it is tribal techno or “funky techno” (like sebastien leger usualy says)…
I cant tell you what is pure Techno… just like so many other people… -
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